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Un-hulled Vetch
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:43 am
Anyone have success with their un-hulled vetch coming up this year? I did a modified spray and throw version this year (couple days before a nice rain) and have zero results. I’ve done this method in the past with fantastic results with hulled seeds.
My iron clay and soybeans came up great but goose egg on vetch this year.
My iron clay and soybeans came up great but goose egg on vetch this year.
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:30 am to WillFerrellisking
Where did you get the vetch?
Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:48 am to PocketLab
Kentwood Co-op
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:17 am to WillFerrellisking
Mine has been planted for three weeks now and it looks terrible. I can see a few sprigs coming up but it doesn't appear to have the germination that the hulled seed had. We have gotten three good rains on ours and it should be further along than this. Not happy.
The guy at Seeds Inc in Memphis warned me that the unhulled would be late coming up. And to be patient. So I am gonna sit on my hands for another week before I start complaining.
The guy at Seeds Inc in Memphis warned me that the unhulled would be late coming up. And to be patient. So I am gonna sit on my hands for another week before I start complaining.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:35 pm to No Colors
The guy I buy seed from planted his in May and he said it is still coming up. Hopefully the guy that grows it for seed will hull them next year or we will be finding a place to hull it
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:49 pm to Outdoorreb
My 1st time using unhulled, maybe I’m being impatient but figured it would start coming up by now.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:23 pm to WillFerrellisking
I believe it is a lot of people’s 1st time. I don’t like it one bit, as of now.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 2:26 pm to Outdoorreb
Glad to know I’m not alone! haha
Posted on 6/14/24 at 3:04 pm to Outdoorreb
I wonder what the annual seed yield is on vetch? The seed sells retail for about $5 a pound. So it would easily sell for $3 pound wholesale.
It's really pretty easy to grow. I know a little operation to hull it, clean it, and bag it would be a pain in the arse. But it seems like there's always a shortage of it. Or always some sort of problem with it. Seems like there should be an alternative of supply.
It's really pretty easy to grow. I know a little operation to hull it, clean it, and bag it would be a pain in the arse. But it seems like there's always a shortage of it. Or always some sort of problem with it. Seems like there should be an alternative of supply.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 3:53 pm to No Colors
Well, get to it ole boy! I’d buy from ya.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 5:58 pm to No Colors
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. I know a little operation to hull it, clean it, and bag it would be a pain in the arse
Don’t forget harvesting it. I believe he does it with a combine. I don’t know the size or anything. I think one of the problems would be letting it actually go to seed and the right moisture content. I believe the Hulling is the pain in the but, or either he would have done it like he always has.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:21 pm to Outdoorreb
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Don’t forget harvesting it. I believe he does it with a combine
Harvesting with the combine is the easy part. You can hire that done with a custom harvester. No problem. And the thing that slows combines down is having enough trucks. That wouldn't be a problem here. One grain truck could run with the combine all day.
The problem would be hulling all that seed and bagging it.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:20 pm to No Colors
Shite!
I didn’t know you were talking about row cropping it. I thought you were talking about in your food plots, and maybe using an old plot combine or something. There is also the storage factor. Now you got grain bins to deal with and possibly dryers
I didn’t know you were talking about row cropping it. I thought you were talking about in your food plots, and maybe using an old plot combine or something. There is also the storage factor. Now you got grain bins to deal with and possibly dryers
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:38 pm to WillFerrellisking
quote:prob come up next year?
My 1st time using unhulled, maybe I’m being impatient but figured it would start coming up by now.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:48 pm to Outdoorreb
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Now you got grain bins to deal with and possibly dryers
Growing a shite tonne of it: No problem
Having it custom combined: No problem
Finding a grain bin with fans etc: No problem
Marketing the cleaned hulled bagged seed? No problem
Actually cleaning the raw seed, hulling it, cleaning it again, and bagging it: PROBLEM
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:31 pm to No Colors
If you do it, I would buy it.
I don’t know what you would have to do/spend to get approval from USDA and State. I assume you would have to get some lab to do the Germ test and possibly other stuff.
I would “think” if it was that easy, someone would have already done it. Maybe you are that someone. I assume the guy does it in Florida because of the growing period, but maybe he does it there because he gets two crops a year.
I don’t know what you would have to do/spend to get approval from USDA and State. I assume you would have to get some lab to do the Germ test and possibly other stuff.
I would “think” if it was that easy, someone would have already done it. Maybe you are that someone. I assume the guy does it in Florida because of the growing period, but maybe he does it there because he gets two crops a year.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:16 am to WillFerrellisking
I broadcast unhulled jointvetch seed over thriving clover in all my food plots about three weeks ago. I even dropped some in a small area of my yard to test germination. We went up to check yesterday and the results are the same in both locations. Very little to no germination or visible growth. We received more than enough rain. I took a day off work to get this stuff out so these results are definetely giving me the red arse.
I purchased the seed from the Clinton Co-Op, so I plan on calling them to let them know and talk to someone that may have some insight. I'll also tell them that unless there is a drastic change, I'm not using unhulled jointvetch seed again.
Whoever decided to only produce seed with hulls will lose a significant market if these results hold. I can order hulled online for twice the cost, but I doubt my group will want that.
Clover is still rocking, but my intent was to see saw between vetch and perennial clover throughout the year. More rain coming.
I purchased the seed from the Clinton Co-Op, so I plan on calling them to let them know and talk to someone that may have some insight. I'll also tell them that unless there is a drastic change, I'm not using unhulled jointvetch seed again.
Whoever decided to only produce seed with hulls will lose a significant market if these results hold. I can order hulled online for twice the cost, but I doubt my group will want that.
Clover is still rocking, but my intent was to see saw between vetch and perennial clover throughout the year. More rain coming.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:04 pm to EarlyBird
I planted alyce with clay peas and JV. Everything up and getting hammered, no JV at all. Have had great success in the past.
Will probably just skip it next year and go alyce, millet, clay peas
Got to plant my sunflowers early because the deer showed them no mercy after they got 1.5 ft tall
Will probably just skip it next year and go alyce, millet, clay peas
Got to plant my sunflowers early because the deer showed them no mercy after they got 1.5 ft tall
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:30 pm to jimjackandjose
We were late getting them in but have sun flowers and cow peas in the ground. Thankful for the rain coming through.
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