re: Elon Musk is a grifter

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And has received tens of billions in government funding to get there. In fairness, grifters are historically swindling smaller amounts, so there's probably a better word for someone who leaches whole GDPs from governments.

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He has provided services and product in return for funding no? Look I have no issue with criticism of Musk. Like I said his bullshite and way over promising and under delivering or products just becoming vaporware are starting to catch up with him. The way he treats his fiduciary duties with Tesla are also shitty. There are current issues with Space X I could get into as well as his apparent drug use and twitter antics but thats not the same thing as someone who is simply a grifter or swindler.