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re: Regardless of your political affiliation what concerns you most today?

Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:20 pm to
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. Plus, we're completely independent in terms of agriculture and energy when asshats in Washington aren't intentionally hamstringing us.


No, we're not.

Good grief some of you people astound me.

Producing enough oil or enough food to supply the US's needs does not mean we're "independent."

If there is a large war prices for both of those things are going up. (Hell, there's only a small war going on right now and prices have gone up noticeably). The international going rate for a barrel of oil or a bushel of corn are going to skyrocket.

You are a US based oil refinery or farmer. You are going to sell your product to domestic buyers only when you could sell it for 1.5-2 times as much to an international buyer?

Of course not. You're going to sell it for the going rate, and so will everybody else, and Americans will end up paying the same inflated price for things as everybody else, including the countries involved in the war. You think the economy is bad under Biden? You've never seen an American economy like what it would be if a large world war was going on.

Please stop listening to Huckster Carlson. What happens around the world does affect America and American citizens, even if it doesn't happen inside the state lines of Texas or North Carolina or California.

Populists need to let actual grown-ups worry about our foreign policy.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
81069 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:22 pm to
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If there is a large war prices for both of those things are going up. (Hell, there's only a small war going on right now and prices have gone up noticeably). The international going rate for a barrel of oil or a bushel of corn are going to skyrocket.

You are a US based oil refinery or farmer. You are going to sell your product to domestic buyers only when you could sell it for 1.5-2 times as much to an international buyer?

Of course not. You're going to sell it for the going rate, and so will everybody else, and Americans will end up paying the same inflated price for things as everybody else, including the countries involved in the war. You think the economy is bad under Biden? You've never seen an American economy like what it would be if a large world war was going on.

Please stop listening to Huckster Carlson. What happens around the world does affect America and American citizens, even if it doesn't happen inside the state lines of Texas or North Carolina or California.

Populists need to let actual grown-ups worry about our foreign policy.


Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
15358 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:34 pm to
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The international going rate for a barrel of oil or a bushel of corn are going to skyrocket.

If there's a war that America isn't a party to and prices skyrocket, you can bet your arse that our government is going to sequester American oil and food. You're viewing things through artificial Bretton Woods lenses. Our economy is already one of the least internationally integrated in the world (outside of Canada and Mexico). If world war were to break out and our politicians somehow managed to keep us out of it, we'd be fine.
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