re: If everyone in Europe had a gun and no body had a gun in US which would have more murders

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I mean wealthy European countries like Norway, Germany etc. I always hear media say it’s safer in Europe because they have no guns.

But the more I think about it, the lower class in the US is just more violent. I think there would be tons of stabbings, strangulations or other ways people would kill here while in Europe they just seem to be more civil.

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you're 100% correct OP. the number of guns may reduce murders slightly but most of them are just due to lower class shitty people.

I'll sacrifice a few deaths to maintain the ability to actually defend myself/my family. it is the last bastion of personal freedom. If you cannot defend yourself you have no rights.