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re: How long is Paul Skenes arm going to hold up?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:30 pm to Undertow
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:30 pm to Undertow
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Yep. Kids shouldn't touch any off-speed(excluding change-ups) until they are 13-14 IMO.
this is wrong btw. and you still twist your arm on a change up. Would you tell your son not to throw a spiral with a football? understand the biomechanics at work now?
the elbow valgus stress is greatest on a fastball.
oh and flat ground elbow valgus stress is same as mound
and towel drill puts ~81% of the elbow valgus stress that a pitch does
the heavier the ball the less elbow valgus stress too btw
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Also, they don't need to play year round and quit specializing. Take breaks, play different sports, work different muscle groups. That is a big part in all of these injuries, also.
this we can agree with but kids also dont need to play so many sports they have no off season. kids also should be lifting way earlier and imo if you cant do 3 or 4 full range chest to bar chins, shouldnt be throwing a ball.
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Agreed on all points. I also think MLB teams babying pitchers with pitch counts hurts them. It makes sense in the spring when you’re trying to ramp them up, but after that they need to be throwing a lot. It’s the constant rest/stress cycles that frick with their arms.
need more rest in season and much longer on ramp to start the season. there is a reason most injuries happen in the first month of the season,,,,,shitastic on ramps
baseball has an IQ problem and people living in the past who dont understand science. they think any real long toss is problematic. hell they hated baur for it. half think weighted balls are the problem yet will tell their pitchers to do 100s of towel drills and throw a football as if there is something special about a football and its weight compared to a plyo ball.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:31 pm to lsu777
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this is wrong btw. and you still twist your arm on a change up. Would you tell your son not to throw a spiral with a football? understand the biomechanics at work now?
We're going to agree on disagree on this.
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kids also dont need to play so many sports they have no off season. kids also should be lifting way earlier and imo if you cant do 3 or 4 full range chest to bar chins, shouldnt be throwing a ball.
I can agree with this.
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