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re: When "Normal" is no longer normal...
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:43 pm to kingbob
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:43 pm to kingbob
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Not anymore, and that’s the problem.
When did all these jobs exist with great salaries and no pressure? I graduated in the late 80s, and if you wanted the golden ticket you had to do the grind. Law, medicine, engineering, accounting; it's always been required for a successful career. You can make good money at other jobs, like welding, and you work your hours and you leave work at work, but you're not going to advance much in pay unless you take on additional responsibilities, which translates to pressure which translates to hours.
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then are chastised as “weak” or “lazy” when they complain about it.
When they insinuate that they're the first generation this has happened to they should be chastised as weak and lazy.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:53 pm to Flats
How much did you make when you started, what year was that, how many hours per week typically?
Studies show time and time again that younger millennials and zoomers are, in fact, working significantly more hours than previous generations did at the same jobs AND earning significantly less money when adjusting for inflation.
I remember one such thread on this, when a poster who had worked as an engineer in Texas in the 80’s talked about how they “scraped by” on her salary working 50 hours a week. I calculated that when adjusted for inflation, she “struggled” on the equivalent of $130k/year in today’s money, while graduating with zero student debt and had housing costs that, even when adjusted for inflation, were 1/4 the current market in the same location for the same home (talking monthly payment, not house price).
Meanwhile, the person working the same job likely works 20-40% more hours every week while getting paid barely half as much, and paying 4 times the adjusted for inflation housing cost AND likely has student loan debt on top.
Nope, just lazy. Maybe instead of blaming them for recognizing a f$&ked economic and social situation while rejoicing how “I got mine”, we should focus on how we can best correct the situation and rebuild the relationships and community that people used to be able to rely on in hard times. We need better churches and civic organizations, we need better school administrations, less exploitative workplaces, and better economic/regulatory policies from our governments.
Studies show time and time again that younger millennials and zoomers are, in fact, working significantly more hours than previous generations did at the same jobs AND earning significantly less money when adjusting for inflation.
I remember one such thread on this, when a poster who had worked as an engineer in Texas in the 80’s talked about how they “scraped by” on her salary working 50 hours a week. I calculated that when adjusted for inflation, she “struggled” on the equivalent of $130k/year in today’s money, while graduating with zero student debt and had housing costs that, even when adjusted for inflation, were 1/4 the current market in the same location for the same home (talking monthly payment, not house price).
Meanwhile, the person working the same job likely works 20-40% more hours every week while getting paid barely half as much, and paying 4 times the adjusted for inflation housing cost AND likely has student loan debt on top.
Nope, just lazy. Maybe instead of blaming them for recognizing a f$&ked economic and social situation while rejoicing how “I got mine”, we should focus on how we can best correct the situation and rebuild the relationships and community that people used to be able to rely on in hard times. We need better churches and civic organizations, we need better school administrations, less exploitative workplaces, and better economic/regulatory policies from our governments.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 12:58 pm
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