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re: Black Monday - Iran says that it has fired first wave of Ballistic Missiles at Israel.

Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:51 pm to
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The 2020 response was something like a dozen or so missiles hitting the edges of two US air bases


I think it's more severe than you are recalling.

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And I think you are assessing the current one as more severe than it was.

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Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:34 pm to
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I think it's more severe than you are recalling.


How many people (regardless of country of origin) were killed? How many were even wounded?

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On 8 January 2020, shortly after midnight, Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi reportedly received a message from Iran indicating that the response to General Soleimani's death had "started or was about to start". Exact locations were not disclosed, but U.S. officials later confirmed their troops had adequate advanced warning of the attack and had taken shelter. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force, later clarified that half an hour before the missiles were fired, Iran informed the Iraqi Prime Minister that they would strike a base in Iraq without saying which base was the target. Hajizadeh said the Iranians gave forewarning to the Iraqi government out of "respect".


It's not very serious if they are warning others ahead of time.

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The exact number of missiles launched is disputed. A spokesman for U.S. Central Command said fifteen missiles were fired; ten hit the Al-Asad airbase, one hit the Erbil base, and four failed to reach their targets. U.S. defense secretary Mark Esper later gave a similar estimate, saying 16 short-range missiles had been launched from three locations within Iran, with 11 striking al-Asad (instead of the prior estimate of 10). Kurdish security officials told CNN that at least two targeted Erbil: one hit Erbil International Airport and did not explode, the other landed about 20 miles west of Erbil. According to the Iraqi military, 22 missiles were fired between 1:45 a.m. and 2:15 a.m. local, 17 toward Al-Asad base and 5 at Erbil.


Even taking Iran's number (and they have been known to fudge a bit), that's not even a quarter of just the missiles (much less the bomb-strapped drones) sent against Israel.

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And I think you are assessing the current one as more severe than it was.


I'm assessing that they thought their drones were going to be more impactful and that they didn't realize there would be a coalition of defensive fire from other countries.

If they were going to send a message like in 2020, they would have simply flown a dozen or two drones in from Lebanon or Syria and aimed them at some government building. Instead, they sent a ridiculously large contingent of missiles and drones in the middle of the night.
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