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re: A24's Civil War - Spoiler Thread... eventually

Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:25 pm to
I wish we got more background as to what happened to set everything off

The movie seems to infer it's a dictatorial president but they should have given is a window into what that looked like
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 5:27 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 5:46 pm to
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I wish we got more background as to what happened to set everything off The movie seems to infer it's a dictatorial president but they should have given is a window into what that looked like


At first I felt like it was missing this, but the more I’ve sat on it I think the way it kept all of that out is the only way this movie would’ve worked to accomplish what it was trying to do

World building is always great until you start making real hard and defined rules, if they had set a real timeline or trigger or specifics of the events, that automatically becomes the focus of the movie. This entire thread would be nothing but arguments about why the war made no sense or the factions made no sense or the decisions of the characters make no sense (you already see that in this thread as it is). People would naturally start moralizing the fake conflict and adding even more real world context to try to connect into this plot and again just add noise to the point I think it seeks to make

The movie isn’t really about the war, certainly not about what started it or who started it, more so about the people who are and have lived in the war for this long. We don’t need to see what started it because the focus is on the impact it’s had on the country and the countries people. The action in the movie is surprising and shocking to us as new people in this world, but until the end most of the violence and destruction is just a normal day in the life for these characters

This is gonna sound funny but it’s got some correlation to Planet of the Apes. We the audience are dropped into a familiar place that seems like home but the realization is that despite the setting being familiar, something has so drastically changed the landscape of society that it’s created an entirely different universe without even explaining the changes that took place (discounting the 70 prequels). Which is intended to allow the viewer to be more analytical of the issue at hand (war in this case) instead of getting bogged down in plot lore
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:53 pm to
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wish we got more background as to what happened to set everything off

I don’t think that was what the movie was supposed to be about. It’s about what comes after the fall and how it affects every day Americans. But there is some context clues in the movie

1. President has suspended the constitution which allowed him a third term.

2. Very likely that the first election wasn’t exactly clean as well Offerman getting his followers into Congress and finding Yes Men for the Supreme Court. Likely killing off Justices

3. Second term economy has tanked (reference to extreme hyper inflation at the gas station) and President has super majority in Congress

4. Mass protests and riots breakout as the president holds a death grip on DC abolishing the FBI and likely kicking out of the press of DC aside from a select few. Protests and riots lead to air strikes on citizens

5. Somehere during the second term Cali and Texas leave the country which causes a domino effect. US government starts war with the two states which causes the alliance

6. Seems like Florida alliance is more worried about recruiting more states as mentioned about Charlottesville than fighting. However Sammy did mention once DC falls they will start fighting. Unsure if this means Cali and Texas or the WF and Florida Alliance
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