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re: Marques Brownlee explains the Apple Antitrust lawsuit

Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:26 am to
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I said carriers because it conveys the same thing, the industry supports the move to RCS.


It doesn't convey the same thing because the carriers aren't doing anything. They actively don't really care much about messaging once you go to RCS. It doesn't really impact them in the same way SMS/MMS did. Google and consumers want RCS more than anyone.

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Google doesn't own RCS, they own Jibe


I swear it's like you forgot our whole other conversation where I brought a lot of the shite you are talking about now up in the first place... No shite....

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Google taking over pushed RCS further than the carriers would have.


Correct, it is basically Google's iMessage like I previously stated. RCS would still be on the backburner and more people would have switched to Whatsapp or similar messaging like Europe if Google hadn't stepped in. It's basically Google's baby right now. Carriers don't care about this fight, they even lose an easy revenue stream from SMS/MMS if it is deprecated out of existence.

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None of this would be happening if Apple wasn't exhibiting exclusionary behavior.


A lot wouldn't have happened if Apple didn't integrate iChat into their products. Hell if one of the many of failed Google attempts to mimic iMessage had taken off before they gave up and went to RCS is another what if. God knows what we would be using now for communication, that's a much different landscape. The problem is we aren't attacking the people to fix this problem. Right now it's Google vs Apple, it should be government vs carriers. You want to update the regs, push manufacturers to make complaint devices. You do that through carriers. Much easier than some weird arse social stigma antitrust suit. The question I have is why aren't they going this route? Why are we suing Apple over something that could be done under an easy regulation change?
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:22 pm to
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it should be government vs carriers.


Im having trouble following you're overall point through the trivial details. but to the above, purely from a whats best for the RCS protocol going forward, Im not sure RCS implementation solely in the hands of the carriers would benefit RCS the most. I foresee that leading to massive fragmentation in the experience, at least in the short term. IMO The ones that have to most incentive to innovate on the experience are the tech companies. And it looks like we might already be seeing that with Apples contributions to the Universal Profile, a possible sharing of MLS encryption, etc. Who knows, maybe Jibe goes away as the Universal Profile is further iterated on.
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