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re: Catholic/Protestant Debate

Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:43 am to
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I am a Protestant, but I wish we would come together because we face a common and demonic enemy today

Is God not strong enough, not omnipotent enough, to overcome the demonic enemies? Or is he capable, but would rather the demons keep doing their evil deeds? How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time? In Isaiah 45 God specifically says he creates evil. Why?
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:13 am to
How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time? In Isaiah 45 God specifically says he creates evil. Why?

A great question…

For one thing, there can’t be good without evil. The main thing is love. God is pure perfect Love. His desire for us, human beings, to love Him in return. That requires our choosing to love Him, which takes free will.

If evil (the antithesis of love) didn’t exist, it would not be possible for us to choose to love God. Frankly, there would be no choice at all.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37436 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:35 am to
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Is God not strong enough, not omnipotent enough, to overcome the demonic enemies? Or is he capable, but would rather the demons keep doing their evil deeds? How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time? In Isaiah 45 God specifically says he creates evil. Why?



Even with your Goliath expose, you are using different translations of the Bible to satisfy the end goal of pushing some level of inauthenticity or inaccuracy, not understanding that certain words in the Bible are extremely contextual to time, place, translation, etc.

ASV has "evil" in Isaiah 45 but in a wildly different translation from many others that use either "disaster" or "calamity." Which is in reference to talking about the nations that would reject him.

It's not about "creating evil," in the sense that God created evil as a "thing." That's a completely different although relevant topic. That particular passage is not pointing to that.

Light and darkness is closer - but even that is a completely different concept.

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Is God not strong enough, not omnipotent enough, to overcome the demonic enemies? Or is he capable, but would rather the demons keep doing their evil deeds? How can God be both omnipotent and benevolent at the same time?


All different kinds of questions that are good to ask, and do have good answers. But you can't pull a single passage out, interpret it on our own erroneously and then extrapolate a whole bunch of inaccurate ideas from that. Although I suspect you've dug in and never found a sufficient answer?
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