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Jacobsen's new book Nuclear War arrives today (3/26)

Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:03 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:03 am
Should be a good one
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by Clint Torres
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:47 am to
Pretty interesting; heard her on the podcast tour a good bit recently; will be picking this one up.
Posted by WM_Tiger
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:19 am to
Really good and I would highly recommend. If I had one itch about the book, it would be on expanding details on the small amount of survivors.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:27 am to
Once I started reading it, it went quickly. Fair warning: It is quite depressing at times, which is understandable considering the subject matter.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:15 pm to
A good podcast with her on Lex Fridman:



I'm not entirely convinced she has all of her facts down, but fundamentally I think she is right. The problem is that in any given year the odds of nuclear war are low. But unless the world disarms a nuclear war is inevitable. And the odd go up every year now that other players are entering the game. And I really don't see any realistic path to disarming the world.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

I'm not entirely convinced she has all of her facts down


I didn't notice anything glaring. The style was a little different, as she tried her hand in speculative writing. That was a little jarring, but she is a very thorough researcher
Posted by Innocent War Vet
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:21 pm to
Interesting title...
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:39 pm to
The scenarios are so dismal that periodically I have to quit reading for a few days and think about something else. I think her scenario is unlikely, but certainly a possibility nonetheless and I start fretting over the world for my children and grand children and so on down the line. I'm about half way through.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:30 pm to
I came across an interview she did with Dan Carlin on one of his addendum shows. It's from April and still free to download at:

Dan Carlin interview

This is something that Dan Carlin has been talking about for a while and he did an excellent episode of his podcast called Destroyer of Worlds. Somehow Annie Jacobsen just seems like a bit of a lightweight compared to Dan Carlin, though they don't disagree on anything on the topic and I guess my main reservation with her book is that it is a work of fiction. But statistically something like it will happen without a fundamental change. It's actually rather surprising that there hasn't been a nuclear weapon used in war since 1945. Richard Feynman in one of his books mentioned that after the Los Alamos test was successful he entered a very deep depression. Because he looked around and saw that everything around him would inevitably be destroyed by nuclear weapons. He got over that, but in the long run I doubt that he was wrong.
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