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re: In just a few years, the average retiree will be receiving 37% more in SS than he paid in

Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:09 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:09 am to
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what people contributed is less than what they are receiving.
By what parameter?

You are implying that a person receiving $150 today, in return for a $100 dollar contribution made 40yrs ago, contributed less than what they are receiving.

Yet, that $150 represents only a ~1% rate of annual return on the original investment. At standard market ROI that $100 investment would have grown to $5900 over 40yrs.

So, at the same time you're lauding the government for returning more than was contributed, you should understand the average retiree is getting royally screwed in the process.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:53 am to
Is this analysis ignoring employer contributions?

Is this analysis using long term US borrowing rate relevant to the investment period?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:54 am to
quote:

You are implying that a person receiving $150 today, in return for a $100 dollar contribution made 40yrs ago, contributed less than what they are receiving.

Yet, that $150 represents only a ~1% rate of annual return on the original investment. At standard market ROI that $100 investment would have grown to $5900 over 40yrs.

Why are we assuming all of this model investing efficiency when the vast majority of Americans do not engage in this behavior?

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you should understand the average retiree is getting royally screwed in the process.

The average retiree would have spent, not saved, all of that money. So they are getting a huge benefit.

Hence why this is a welfare program.
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