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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28

Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:37 am to
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Like Kupp?

No, like Maye, Cam, and Mathieu

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Wrong in 2023 rams were in the MIDDLE of cap hell - or your own deluded version of “cap hell.”

I said "they're out of", i.e., today.

They're smack dab in the middle of the NFL this offseason in terms of cap space (with no dead cap looming while retaining their expensive QB, WR, and DT). We are last, with an incomprehensible amount of dead cap looming.

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And yes they were fine. Which is why I keep calling you a pussy and telling you to shut the frick up.

THEY made the playoffs last year in a difficult division.

WE did not in one of the easiest divisions in NFL history.

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So THEIR can kicking was ultra effective because they went 10-7, but the Saints at 9-8 had inneffective can kicking?

The can stopped being kicked last year. We are still kicking can.

They can make the playoffs while in a difficult division and rebuilding.

We failed to make the playoffs while in an incredibly easy division and pushing rebuilding off.

Their original can kicking also led to a title and another SB appearance. Our can kicking led to neither (and today we are so strapped we can't even make the playoffs).

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How do you think the rams signed their 14 picks with 74 million in dead cap you fricking moron?

They had lots of roster spaces not dedicated to dead weight like we do.

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Dude, Rams have had a shitty dead cap for years now,

And made 2 Super Bowls and won a title.

Then they took their medicine and made the playoffs.

We made no Super Bowls, won no Super Bowls, and can't even make the playoffs.

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Depends on what they do with several contracts like Cooper Kupp

They're way under the cap with his contract.

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By the way were the Bucs selling out for a Super Bowl in 2023?

No they were rebuilding after selling out for their Super Bowl (which they got).

Where is our similar Super Bowl in this can-kicking era?

We haven't even begun to rebuild yet. They did in one offseason (like Los Angeles) and made the playoffs (like Los Angeles).

The Saints have not even begun to take our medicine and we can't make the playoffs. What does that say about how bad our roster construction is, compared to 2 rebuilding teams?

Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:46 am to
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No, like Maye, Cam, and Mathieu


Kupp has a monster contract and isnt productive - his contract is worse than the guys listed above clown.

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I said "they're out of", i.e., today. They're smack dab in the middle of the NFL this offseason in terms of cap space (with no dead cap looming while retaining their expensive QB, WR, and DT).


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The can stopped being kicked last year. We are still kicking can. They can make the playoffs while in a difficult division and rebuilding. We failed to make the playoffs while in an incredibly easy division and pushing rebuilding off.
Their original can kicking also led to a title and another SB appearance. Our can kicking led to neither (and today we are so strapped we can't even make the playoffs).


Rams cap management is in par with the Saints. They have been one of the top 5 teams in dead cap for years.

They have a SuperBowl appearance robbed from the Saints, and won in in a high dead cap year 2021.

They have been in the same boat as the Saints with better luck/cheating refs.


And, like I said already, how deadcap a team has is NOT a defining factor in whether they are or arent a good team.

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quote: By the way were the Bucs selling out for a Super Bowl in 2023? No they were rebuilding after selling out for their Super Bowl (which they got). Where is our similar Super Bowl in this can-kicking era?


So you forgot that the Saints were rolling and lost to Tom Brady/Bucs that year? The Saints were in the mix fighting for the SB that year and beat the Bucs twice in the regular season.

Funny how you dont mention how we were 13-3 that season.

Also the Bucs last year managed a high dead cap and had success but only marginally better than the Saints who were also 9-8 and whupped their asses before the playoffs started. Saints clearly could have made noise in the playoffs.

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No they were rebuilding after selling out for their Super Bowl (which they got). Where is our similar Super Bowl in this can-kicking era?


And what about these teams nut bag?

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $75.32MM Los Angeles Rams: $74.23MM
Green Bay Packers: $57.14MM Philadelphia Eagles: $54.73MM Carolina Panthers: $51.54MM
Arizona Cardinals: $36.96MM Tennessee Titans: $36.56MM Minnesota Vikings: $35.54MM Houston Texans: $31.72MM


The Bucs, Packers, Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings were not “selling out” for a championship in 2023 were they. No.

They just had a high dead cap year.

You think the reasons a team has a high dead cap are (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.

Alittle more to it than that pussy.

PS every fricking team is “selling out” to win a ship in whatever way they can. Even in a rebuild year there is a plan.

Which brings me back to my original point.

The salary cap is ongoing and ever changing, as are contract values etc. As posted above the top 4 teams with the highest deadcaps were in the playoffs in 2023, the Bucs, Rams, Packers, and Eagles.

The Bucs and Packers (and Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings) in particular were not selling out for a championship. And theyre not necessarily rebuilding either.


Again, you are clueless. (1) you beleive that a large dead cap is meaningful - as a definition of whether a team will or wont be a good team. Its not. (2) Now your spin is that a team with a high deadcap is better than the Saints high deadcap because (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.

There are several factors that play into it. The metric for NFL success is not watching deadcap you fricking pussy. Which is why the following was posted:

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SFP makes a post about NFL power rankings. It only addresses teams’ salary cap. Seems on par.



Par for the course. Shut the frick up pussy. Youre fricking clown.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 12:04 pm
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