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re: Mahomes is the GOAT
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:11 pm to shel311
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:11 pm to shel311
120 is considered surefire PB, All-Pro territory. 130 is considered All-Pro, MVP level, great tier throughout history. Anything over 140 is considered an all-time elite season (think if it like a 2,000 yard rushing season equivalent for passers).
There are a couple of outliers in there that scored highly, but were due to highly efficient but extremely limited usage (Nic Foles 2013 and Purdy 2023) so I won’t say it is 100% perfect and don’t question it - I personally have some issues with the formula that is used to calculate Passer Rating in general - but it’s pretty much the best way to compare how great of a passer a quarterback was compared to his peers across the years. It doesn’t factor in what a quarterback does in the running game so guys like Mahomes, Young, Rodgers, and Jackson are not rewarded for their full impact as a player though.
There are a couple of outliers in there that scored highly, but were due to highly efficient but extremely limited usage (Nic Foles 2013 and Purdy 2023) so I won’t say it is 100% perfect and don’t question it - I personally have some issues with the formula that is used to calculate Passer Rating in general - but it’s pretty much the best way to compare how great of a passer a quarterback was compared to his peers across the years. It doesn’t factor in what a quarterback does in the running game so guys like Mahomes, Young, Rodgers, and Jackson are not rewarded for their full impact as a player though.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:36 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:So you'd agree based on your original post specific to "elite" play that 130 is better than 120, right?
120 is considered surefire PB, All-Pro territory. 130 is considered All-Pro, MVP level, great tier throughout history
120 is Pro Bowl caliber, but we know with certainly that just being a Pro Bowler does not make you elite.
You said 130 is considered All-Pro, MVP level...THAT is elite.
So using 130 or higher as the barometer:
Brady - 3 times in his 21 full seasons played, or 14.3% of the time
Peyton - 2 times in his 17 full seasons played, or 11.8% of the time
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