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re: Pope Denounces ‘Hypocrisy’ of Those Who Criticize LGBT Blessings

Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:57 am to
I like Trent Horn a lot but, could you summarize his points for us?
Posted by catholictigerfan
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:31 pm to
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I like Trent Horn a lot but, could you summarize his points for us?


Simply put Trent Horn is pointing out that Pope Francis while you could argue that he has made poor decisions in his papacy, that is something completely different than calling him a heretic.

The catechism says the following

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Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."


My opinion is that the Pope hasn't even come close to this. While he has said some controversial things, to have fallen into heresy is completely different.

I think what Trent was trying to do in his video is follow the logic of Fr. Altman to it's conclusion, basically based on the arguments he made about how Pope Francis isn't Pope, by the same logic you must argue that JPII wasn't Pope, Benedict XVI wasn't Pope. He went even as far to say that St. Peter wasn't Pope based on Altman's logic.

I've had a busy day so I haven't had the time to look individually at all of the claims made in the articles posted but I thought Trent Horns take was interesting.
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