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Building a duck hole

Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:11 pm
Working on a little waterfowl impoundment on my property. It will be a little 2-3 acre flooded timber wood duck hole next to a creek. Clearing out all the under brush and the canopy is thin but I expect it will be mostly filtered sunlight in the growing season. Wondering what to plant in there. I have been looking at the mossy oak biologic waterfowl blend. Going to build a dam and use a flash board riser to control water levels so it will be dry in the summer and flooded either with rain water or pumped from the creek in the fall
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:29 pm to
Just based on that picture, the canopy looks pretty thick when leaves are on the trees.

Whatever you do, don't contact the government for any purpose whatsoever.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:39 pm to
Have any holes in the canopy? You need a pretty good hole for them to use the water below.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:41 pm to
Yeah they wouldn’t do shite anyways. One of our neighbors upstream built an unpermitted pond and dried up one of our creeks. We called in and they never followed up. Now we have a dry creek all summer that our cattle used for water.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:44 pm to
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Have any holes in the canopy?

Yes. A couple pretty good holes. I have a few trees that will get dropped to open it up more but it’s really just a privet choked hell hole. Once I rip all the privet out with the bobcat I’ll start selectively dropping trees. Only the sweet gum though. Gotta leave the oaks for acorns.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:54 pm to
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Yeah they wouldn’t do shite anyways. One of our neighbors upstream built an unpermitted pond and dried up one of our creeks. We called in and they never followed up. Now we have a dry creek all summer that our cattle used for water.


Georgia DNR, EPD, you report them, I assure they'll be out. They might take a couple years to get out there, but when they do, it's going to be trouble. I have a source you can sick on them, but you better do it before your build your stuff.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:56 pm to
Mine will be dry 8 months out of the year
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:59 pm to
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you report them, I assure they'll be out


By law they have to follow up on these reports.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6611 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:00 pm to
Also this is already a wetland area. If you pull it up on ONX it shows water. Somebody dug a ditch to drain it.
Posted by Vermeer20x22
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:16 pm to
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Whatever you do, don't contact the government for any purpose whatsoever.

This is the most important thing.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:16 pm to
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Also this is already a wetland area. If you pull it up on ONX it shows water. Somebody dug a ditch to drain it.


GA EPD will make sure engineers make that determination, and they'll make you pay for it.

And the "maybe pump from the creek in the fall" part of your infrastructure is something they'll need to study extra hard.

And the flooding of the bottoms during the acorn mast will defeat the purpose of your acorn mast.

I do agree with taking down all the sweetgums, regardless of what you end up doing with that spot.

Have you fixed your crooked shed yet?

Your idea could be a cottonmouth farm and you sell their venom to Pfizer.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:25 pm to
May or may not be in Georgia
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6611 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:26 pm to
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Have you fixed your crooked shed yet?

Nope. Part of the roof blew off in the high winds we had when that cold snap came in.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:28 pm to
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May or may not be in Georgia


Slick, but they'll see this post and subpoena the IP info herein, with or without Chicken's approval, and they'll find out one way or another if a private citizen is making improvements to his private land without their permission. They don't frick around.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6611 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:29 pm to
Are you threatening me?
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Slick, but they'll see this post and subpoena the IP info herein, with or without Chicken's approval, and they'll find out one way or another if a private citizen is making improvements to his private land without their permission. They don't frick around.


They won’t go this far.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
66391 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Are you threatening me?


No sir, I'm warning you. They have been on my arse for years, I even have a consent order the GA EPD put on me. WSB Channel 2 even reached out to do a story on it. For a 4 acre pond built in the 1960's.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6611 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:34 pm to
Makes me wonder if the pond we already have was permitted. The family we bought it from got it in a land lottery before the civil war.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6611 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:39 pm to
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And the flooding of the bottoms during the acorn mast will defeat the purpose of your acorn mast.

Ducks feed in water. if it works out you can come down and shoot it with me this fall as long as you ain’t scared of hunting over the yellow variety of acorns.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
66391 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:20 pm to
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Ducks feed in water. if it works out you can come down and shoot it with me this fall as long as you ain’t scared of hunting over the yellow variety of acorns.


Now I feel like I'm being entrapped. I got too much heat on me to accept such a generous offer.
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