re: Coffee Thread

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Isn’t the flair more expensive than the Turin Legato? Get the 64 and Legato. Feel like the Flair would be a pain in the arse. You got to preheat with multiple pulls, you can’t get constant pressure because the pressure is generated from the arm ratchet? Get a Gaggia Classic or Legato and pair it with the DF64. That’s a good beginner setup for under $1k.

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Can’t argue with any of that, except that the Pro 2 is less than the Legato. It’s just a matter of preference. Lever machines are classics. There’s nothing wrong with using a lever, especially if it has a pressure gauge so you can learn to control the pressures. It gives you total control, and you will learn quickly what the actual variables are that go into great coffee. It was what i learned using the Flair that led me to select the upgrade machine that I got. I wouldn’t have known what the trade offs were if I hadn’t done it manually for a while.

But you are correct that the Legato is probably the best deal for a pump driven machine at its price. It all depends upon which trade offs you are willing to make.