re: Amazon Prime new cartoon retells the creation story

Good evening, my friend. I hope you have had a great weekend. In the words of the famous modern philosopher, Tupac Shakur- I ain’t mad atcha.

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If you cast off your blinders and presuppositions and biases

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Excellent point, my friend. Would only add that this applies to both of us equally- yet in diametrical opposition. So far, it seems as though you are either unwilling to admit your biases, or simply unaware. Either makes sense of your position in the biblical worldview.

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I think you’ll find that there is no verifiable evidence of any god. If it was verifiable, then no faith would be required for believe and everyone would believe it.

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Again, I agree. I would only add, that it is a feature- not a bug. Can you force someone to love you? Essentially, for God to remove even the possibility of doubt- he would have to remove our free will- which is the only thing that adds value to our decision to accept Jesus Christ as our savior; or culpability to our free will decision to reject Him.

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God of the gaps” arguments like “well what made the Big Bang go bang?” and “well scientists still haven’t figured out how life started” is just not evidence of a god. “We don’t know - therefore it must be the Christian God who done it!”

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You and I seem to have so much more in common than we do not. Yet again, we agree. God of the gaps arguments should never be the end of the search for truth. The gaps absolutely need to be filled in. I think God Himself shakes his head in disappointment when we say “the science is settled- God did it. Next.” No- how did He do it? Why? These are the questions that I believe He is glorified in our search for, and more so in or attainment of, the answers. After all, science exists because we believed that God created a world that could be fully understood.

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Foomanchoo

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Man I miss my dawg! Say what you will, but that man is one of the most biblically literate posters on this board. I imagine that he has “shaken the dust off his feet” in regards to you. There comes a point when all that can be said- has been said. I disagree with nothing (that I know of) he has said to you.

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You brought up the inability to disprove God. (Presumably as “evidence” of Go’a existence maybe?). I thought it would be relevant to point out you also can’t disprove the existence of the other gods of other religions.

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I can see how you would think that. But, no. I brought that up because- apples and oranges. Billions of people believe in God. No one believes in the FSM. More interestingly, many people used to believe in those other “gods.” No one does now. No offense, but to even compare them to the Christian God is a very weak argument. You’re clearly better than that.

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Positive assertions require positive evidence of the one making the assertion. I don’t have to disprove your God and I won’t try because it’s impossible to disprove an imaginary idea..

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How convenient (and intellectually dishonest) for your position. Read your quote again, and tell me how it is not self-contradictory. Let’s evaluate:

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Positive assertions require positive evidence of the one making the assertion

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In the same breath:

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I can make the assertion that your God does not exist and that I don’t believe in the fairy tales, but I’m not the one with the burden of proof

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As a quick aside: Your inclusion of “fairytales” (that no one is positing a truth claim for) in this statement is an appeal to ridicule fallacy, thereby showing the weakness of your argument. Moving on. Do you not see that you are claiming that the burden of proof is on the one making a positive claim- while making a positive claim without evidence? This is exactly why your go to of “claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence” is, in fact, circular reasoning. I think you have better weapons at your disposal.

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I think you and others sometimes confuse me poking holes in the Bible with trying to disprove your God or any supernatural being

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Well, you are a self-proclaimed atheist (who ironically argues for Gnosticism ). If you were to take a position of an agnostic, I would imagine that those who engage you would alter their approach.

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I can only demonstrate that what the Bible says about natural things is inconsistent with reality.

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I disagree. What you can do, is present discrepancies between modern understanding and the context of ancient history. Bravo! I would argue that, much in the same way that God expects us to do science- He also expects us to do history and theology- starting with Him as our hypothesis.

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Let’s start at Genesis 1. Can we at least agree that there is no glasslike round vault - a firmament - in the sky holding back the waters of chaos above the heavens?

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Bruh- you’re gonna love this:
Apparently, there is.
We’ve known for a long time that there is water in space. But an international team of scientists has found a cloud of water vapor 12 billion light-years away – and it’s bigger than you could possibly imagine.
You Will Not Believe How Much Water Has Been Found Floating in Space

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We’ve gone over these already. You admitted that it’s not accurate or true on the subject of God storing his lightning bolts and hail in the storehouses of heaven. Rain doesn’t come through windows in the firmament. The sun, stars, and moon aren’t underneath the firmament, and the stars can’t fall out of the sky. The earth isn’t flat. You can’t make stripped goats by having the mating pair of goats looked at a stripped textile pattern.

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Well, yes and no. I admit that it’s not how we understand these things today. But, I don’t discount the fact that it is the way the biblical authors would’ve described something they couldn’t possibly understand.

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It’s not because of the people in the group but my study of the subject matter that has led me to conclude the claims of that religion are false.

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Interdasting. I would posit that the exact same approach has led me to the opposite conclusion. The question is why? The answer is because we both found what we were looking for. Which is essentially what the Bible says will happen. (We need a winky face emoji)

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I’d invite you to listen to Dr Ehrman

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I have. Extensively. What I have found is that (like you, Dawkins, Barker, Hitchens, O’Connor, etc ad nauseam) his arrogance concerning his claimed incontrovertible knowledge of things that can not possibly be known- is intellectually untenable. He reminds me of the kid in 5th grade talking about how many girls he’s slept with. He’s clearly more “successful” in his current role than he was as a Baptist minister. Some would call that motivation. I just pray that God’s grace finds him.