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Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:30 am to
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Member since Nov 2012
5735 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:30 am to
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Agreed, he needs to stop his descent into evil and get on board with the baby killer.

When you first elbowed your way into my two posts about Gnosticism, you ignored the subject in your response and introduced genocide by placing me in a scenario where I was presumed to be a genocidal Israelite and asked (by you) if I’d kill the mother first or her baby.

I replied, a bit confused, thinking that you, also apparently confused, had mistaken my posts for someone else’s or were a run of the mill atheist hostile to Christianity and Christian’s posting. Your subsequent response made clear you were neither confused nor mistaken.

Atheist or not, you were clearly an above average turd who continued to ignore Gnosticism, obsess on genocide, and push your clever “gotcha” scenario, would I kill the mother first or her child, which?

A scenario, ironically, which you never placed yourself in and stated what you’d do. Not even to offer wisdom, insights, or instruction. Not even to bolster the self righteous superiority you claimed earlier for yourself.

I asked you, if you had been amongst the howling mob in Pontius Pilate’s courtyard on the first Good Friday, what would you have screamed? “Free Barabbas!” or “Crucify Jesus!” From your answer, I believe I can infer your answer on your genocide question. Regarding Jesus, you claimed, because you’re all about free speech, you wouldn’t demand Jesus be crucified, if the 2024 you had been magically transported to 33 AD Jerusalem.
If you were a man who was born and lived there in those times, you were not so sure what you’d have screamed. Seems reasonable.

So your answer to your own question apparently is, if 2024 you had been magically transported to ancient Israel, because you’re pro-life, you wouldn’t kill either the mother or her baby, but if you were an Israelite born and raised in genocidal times, your not so sure you wouldn’t kill. Reasonable too?

You think this because you misunderstand human nature. You believe the 2024 you is incapable of screaming for an innocent, righteous man to be brutally tortured and murdered or of committing genocide.

I believe it most likely, if you’d been in Pilate’s courtyard that day amongst the crowd, you’d have howled “Free Barabbas!” in one breath, and “Crucify Jesus!” in the next.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
23091 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 9:04 am to
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but if you were an Israelite born and raised in genocidal times, your not so sure you wouldn’t kill. Reasonable too?


Quite. But my question for you wasn't as if you'd grown up in that time period. It was taking the person you are today and placing you in that position.

You either obey God and kill women and children.

Or refuse to, and disobey God.

I don't think it's outlandish to assume that you, A Christian who has already accepted the morality of all this, to do the former.

Though, again, I totally understand your refusal to answer said question despite having had multiple opportunities over a week to answer it.

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You believe the 2024 you is incapable of screaming for an innocent, righteous man to be brutally tortured and murdered or of committing genocide.


Yes, because I know myself and my values.

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I believe it most likely, if you’d been in Pilate’s courtyard that day amongst the crowd, you’d have howled “Free Barabbas!” in one breath, and “Crucify Jesus!” in the next.


Based on what?
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
2234 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:40 pm to
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Pilate’s courtyard that day amongst the crowd, you’d have howled “Free Jesus son of the Father!” in one breath, and “Crucify Jesus the one called Christ!” in the next

Fixed it for you to align with the gospel of Matthew and translated “Barabbas” into English for you.
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