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re: Is Hawkins a better shooter than Trey right now?

Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:18 am to
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Rookie Curry, 74% of his 3s were assisted. That's a looooooong ways from 100%.


So 3 out of 4 for Curry and 4 out of 4 for Hawk. A difference of one shot. Not that really far away.


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Also, 30% of rookie Curry's 2s were assisted. Hawkins is at 75%.


You got me here. However, I did say Hawk's next level is better handles and finishing at the rim. He does have a nice self made Middy.

This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:23 am to
I love Hawk but guys his stretch right now he is shooting the absolute cover off the ball. He’s like 60% from 3 in his last 10 games, meanwhile Trey is slumping

Hawk will be a great shooter in this league for a long time, but we’re comparing a rookie on a hot streak to (IMO) a future all star caliber type player on a minutes restriction that hasn’t gotten his legs back yet

You can say “size is the only difference” (it’s not, but it’s certainly a big one) but that really doesn’t discredit anything

As much as we would like to pretend that skill is all that matters in the league, size is a massive advantage. It just is. And Trey’s measurables are truly freaky for a 41% 3point shooter who can shoot from 30 feet out with regularity

(To be clear I’m very close to “Hawkins is untouchable” though)
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:34 am to
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So 3 out of 4 for Curry and 4 out of 4 for Hawk. A difference of one shot. Not that really far away.

It's a HUGE difference.

It's an example of 1 person showing he has the ability to do something but in small amounts, and the other having quite literally never showed that same ability in probably 500 minutes of basketball.

Think about that...Not one time did Hawkins make a legit off the dribble 3 all season. Steph was doing it 25% of the time. I don't get how you don't see that's a massive difference when discussing what a guy can do.
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You got me here.
I think we all know and recognize Steph's handles and the obvious 3s, but sometimes I don't think he gets enough credit for how great of a finisher he is.
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He does have a nice self made Middy.
He does but it's not truly self made.

It's usually beating the hard close out. Now, fairness to Hawkins, he's getting a hard close out because he's such a good shooter, but he's beating that close out with 1-2 quick dribbles and very confident and great looking middle, no question. But he's not really beating a dude straight up off the dribble to get that middle just yet.
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