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re: Small sample size, but is this the lineup of the future?

Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:26 am to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62056 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:26 am to
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No, it's not the lineup of the future. Dyson is a shooter now? Better than BI, Herb, and Hawk? It's the only plus lineup because Denver just played really well most of the night. It happens.


I wasn't even remotely suggesting Dyson was a shooter, I feel like you didn't even fully read my post. I suspect it's because BI wasn't listed which caused a knee jerk reaction. Dumping BI isn't really the angle I was going for. In fact, BI would benefit from similar 2 shooter lineups that I listed with Zion in them. BI has been saddled more than once with no shooters in some bench lineups and been asked to figure it out, and surprisingly he often did.

I made a post the other day talking about how our starting lineup doesn't work well because BI is the PG, meaning he's not acting as a spacer, meaning he is surrounded by 1 spacer and 3 non spacers. Here's a new article from Shamit driving home the point of how bad our 1 shooter lineups are.



LINK
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26864 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:26 am to
from that article, i think this should be mentioned:

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There is one super fascinating wrench in the data, and that is the NO SHOOTER lineups. These lineups of course are the ones without any of CJ, Trey, Hawk, and Matt on the court. In 459 no shooter possessions (also minus Liddell, Gates, Seabron, and JRE to remove garbage time), the Pelicans are a +18.28. The bulk of these possessions, however, feature all three of the Zion, BI, and JV trio, and almost all of them feature at least two of the three.

The Pelicans had a ton of success running the Dyson, Herb, BI, Zion, JV starting lineup and that success is carrying a lot of this data. However, the no-shooter configurations are shooting 39% from three, with even the above starting 5 clocking in at 40% from deep. The combination of unsustainable shooting, defense generated transition play, and offensive rebounds, the Pelicans found a way to make no shooter groups work.



Simply put, we are playing really good basketball overall.
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