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re: Mexican President Obrador Issues His List Of Demands

Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29951 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Remain in Mexico is the best way to stop the flow into the US, and we need Mexico on board (again) to do that.

Educate me on why we need anything whatsoever from Mexico in order to prevent people from crossing into the US.

Don’t tell me that we have to compensate for our deliberate choices to not enforce our laws by asking Mexican nicely. Tell me why there’s an inherent need for Mexican cooperation.

Because if we simply secured our own border, this becomes Mexico’s problem. Quickly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432390 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Because if we simply secured our own border,

You talking a wall or what?

RIM "secures the border" better than that.

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our deliberate choices to not enforce our laws

Eh, "our laws" are why they get to stay here. They're smart enough to claim asylum, knowing that our courts are backed up. Our laws require due process for asylum claims.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37024 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Educate me on why we need anything whatsoever from Mexico in order to prevent people from crossing into the US.



Mexico is seeing it as an opportunity to negotiate.

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Tell me why there’s an inherent need for Mexican cooperation.



There is no inherent need, but it is just geopolitics. If the issue is important to the American ruling class, then getting some sort of concession from a maximalist starting point is just the way geopolitics is conducted.

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Because if we simply secured our own border, this becomes Mexico’s problem. Quickly.



But in this situation, will the US actually benefit? The Mexican state, just from its geography, will always have a difficult time imposing its will on certain sections of the country. Anything that increases instability in Mexico is going to lead to an untenable border situation in the long-term.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6627 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Because if we simply secured our own border, this becomes Mexico’s problem. Quickly.


As it should be regardless of Crazy4LSU's response was to you.

America first for Americans and Mexico first for Mexicans. We will protect our border and you protect your border.

Pretty simple, really.
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