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re: Over 25% of Methodist churches abandon denomination as schism grows over LGBTQ+ issues
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:01 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:01 am to wackatimesthree
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They say that passages regarding male homosexuality aren't really referring to male-male relations between equal partners, but to men engaging in sex with temple prostitutes who were often not of age.
I know they like to argue against the translations from Greek, but this translation seems like it would be pretty hard to misinterpret.
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Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another
And homosexual relations did happen in these times. Paul was aware of this.
Even the progressive historians that wrote my college textbooks say that even some Spartans engaged in homosexuality over a thousand years before Paul’s epistles were written.
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Posted on 12/30/23 at 10:16 am to Deuces
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And homosexual relations did happen in these times. Paul was aware of this.
I am not at all an ancient history scholar, but, if my recollection of my readings is correct, male homosexual behavior was not only happening in ancient Greece and Rome, but, it was rather normalized. That's why the new (at the time) Christian religion was so very radical.
Sex outside of marriage was quite normalized back then. It was Christianity that tried to put a damper on the "orgy culture" of the ancient times in Greece and Rome.
Naturaly, this new damper enraged the homosexuals of the day.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 5:08 pm to Deuces
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I know they like to argue against the translations from Greek, but this translation seems like it would be pretty hard to misinterpret.
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Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another
And homosexual relations did happen in these times. Paul was aware of this.
Even the progressive historians that wrote my college textbooks say that even some Spartans engaged in homosexuality over a thousand years before Paul’s epistles were written.
Sure.
Like I said, I'm not aware of a single reputable scholar who agrees with any of the popular claims.
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