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re: Haley declines to say slavery was cause of Civil War

Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:02 am to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:02 am to
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If not for Northern attempts to sublimate Southern rights in accordance with the Constitution, there would have been no secession and war.


Who was it before the war that had the legal right to go into the others states to retrieve lost property with no due process?

The Fugitive Slave act was a huge over-reach on States Rights and led to a larger abolishiment movement. The South wanted "Their rights" to be slavery in the new territories. Without this they knew they would slowly lose the majorites in the Houses and the SCOTUS. They knew the writting was on the wall. They South made two fatal errors before the war ever began:

1. They over valued King Cotton. They embargoed their own damn revenue source. Hoping to force alliances by withholding cotton to the Euro powers backfired. Millions of pounds of cotton rotted in te fields.

2. They underestimated the willingness of the North to fight for the "****".

If the South had been smarter and more patient the outcome would have been much different. South Carolina screwed up biggly and started it all before the South could better prepare.

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38252 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:05 am to
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goatmilker


Boom! Great response
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124349 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:42 am to
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If the South had been smarter and more patient the outcome would have been much different.
Not the issue.
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South Carolina screwed up biggly
Indeed. They were goaded and went for the bait. Again though, not the issue.

The issue was Constitutional states' rights vs commitment of Northern states to comply with those components of the foundational union.

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all before the South could better prepare
The only shot the South had was following up Bull Run 1 with an occupation of Washington DC, Maryland surrounds, and a negotiated armistice.

Given money, manufacturing, and population, time for prep served the North disproportionately.
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