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re: What in the hell is wrong with medical billing?

Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:56 pm to
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Everyone gets charged the same rate regardless of your insurance plan. Each insurance plan reimburses according to the contract that the physician and/or hospital signed. If you're in network, then the physician cannot collect the difference in the charged amount and the reimbursed amount.


I see the difference, though it amounts to the same thing in terms of what the provider gets paid for each service being different for each patient. This being the case, if a doctor had a posted “price list”, this would not be the cost to you but the maximum possible cost to you as a patient.

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If you are out of network, then you may owe the difference(this is called balance billing).


Here is where the confusion lies. A patient goes to a doctor that is in network, expecting everything that is done via that doctor to be in network. What they don’t realize is that the lab, the radiology, and any other services ordered by that same doctor might be out of network. I’m sure this has been covered already in this thread.

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Some types of practices do now operate on a cash based system.


Decreasing the overhead on the practice should in theory decrease costs. But the fact that they are all out of network would then raise costs and there is the added uncertainty of being reimbursed at all. Are most of these practices things like cosmetic or anti-aging treatment type places?
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6108 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 7:25 pm to
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Decreasing the overhead on the practice should in theory decrease costs. But the fact that they are all out of network would then raise costs and there is the added uncertainty of being reimbursed at all. Are most of these practices things like cosmetic or anti-aging treatment type places?


Maybe. If the price is posted/transparent, and the patient and physician are agreeable to the price, isn't that what we want?

It doesn't necessarily raise the total price, but it may change the amount the patient co shares in the price. I.e. the insurance may only reimburse 60% of the cost instead of 80% etc. And the rest is on the patient. But at least the patient would know upfront about this.

Yes, the possibility of not getting reimbursed from insurance has always been there. It just shifts from the hospital/physician to the patient. But at least the patient would know ahead of time what their cost would be if the insurance denies.

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Are most of these practices things like cosmetic or anti-aging treatment type places?


No. There are several primary care practices who do this. There are a few ENT practices that follow a similar model. However this can't be applied to every practice type or speciality. Most people getting cardiac surgery can't really price shop for a fixed cost.
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