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Yo these are some disappointing threads
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:32 pm
No offense, I got love for y’all, and this place can be really fun
But like
We have a trade thread after one bad and unhealthy game
“Trey Murphy should become the face of the franchise” (As the BIGGEST Trey Murphy stan, WTF)
Posting that bogus arse video from a year ago where Zion jokes about going to the bulls
Turning BI into Manu fricking Ginobli?
Guys what the frick is this?
But like
We have a trade thread after one bad and unhealthy game
“Trey Murphy should become the face of the franchise” (As the BIGGEST Trey Murphy stan, WTF)
Posting that bogus arse video from a year ago where Zion jokes about going to the bulls
Turning BI into Manu fricking Ginobli?
Guys what the frick is this?
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:37 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:
Guys what the frick is this?
It’s Pels Talk. It is what it is.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:46 pm to LSUgrad88
Hey man I’ve been here a while I’ve seen some things but man not a single even remotely insightful new thread I had to say something lol
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:48 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Seems like more of you disagreeing with people but not trying to have rational discussions and tell us why you disagree and where others opinions are off base
Guys what the frick is this?
You called me a BI hater but refused to engage in any rational discussion with any of the valid points I raised.
It seems you just want to live in the fairy tale world where this team is perfect and anyone who disagrees and doesn't love every player and want every player to be here for 10 years is a hater and not a real Pels fan.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:48 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Interesting since previously and in this thread too, you're really not saying anything at all.
I had to say something lol
Certainly nothing insightful are worthy of a good Pels related discussion.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:50 pm to shel311
quote:
Interesting since previously and in this thread too, you're really not saying anything at all.
I think if we took a vote on who provides more value to this board me or you, you might be shocked with the results
Your entire schtick is just:
Say you don’t believe it will last when we’re playing well
When we play poorly (even if it’s due to health or a b2b or whatever) say you knew it would never work and that we need to trade BI
Rinse
Repeat
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:54 pm to shel311
quote:
You called me a BI hater but refused to engage in any rational discussion with any of the valid points I raised. It seems you just want to live in the fairy tale world where this team is perfect and anyone who disagrees and doesn't love every player and want every player to be here for 10 years is a hater and not a real Pels fan.
Well, you are a BI hater
But you also refuse to acknowledge all the things BI is doing to make himself fit better with the team
His drives are way up this year, and his driving and kicking ability has been much improved. I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to potential assists at all, but BI is racking them up like crazy
Since the team meeting, BI and Zion are +20 on the floor together, and have both an elite offensive AND defensive rating on the court together
But no sure the sky is falling because we couldn’t make 3s missing 3 of our best shooters against the Bulls
Dude it’s just exhausting. That’s why I don’t respond
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:57 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:You'd be wrong, it is what it is.
I think if we took a vote on who provides more value to this board me or you, you might be shocked with the results
quote:I've never once said that.
Say you don’t believe it will last when we’re playing well
YOu're really on fire right now
quote:I've also never once said that I knew it would never work. I 100% thought it would if healthy.
When we play poorly (even if it’s due to health or a b2b or whatever) say you knew it would never work and that we need to trade BI
This is hilarious.
But tell me more about all that value you're providing
quote:If you're talking about you completely making shite up that didn't happen, you would be correct, finally getting one right.
Rinse
Repeat
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:59 pm to shel311
You literally said like 2 days ago after the bulls game that even if it works for 5 games and we go on a run that you would never believe in this team with BI as a second option
But yea sure
But yea sure
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:00 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Nope
Well, you are a BI hater
You just lack the ability to talk hoops rationally. you just want to scream and yell that everyone is hater that doesn't believe there are flaws with your beloved Pels players. But you can't have those discussions, so in fairness to you, you do a good job of avoiding them.
quote:Nonsense, you can't have a rational discussion and refute anything I said. You want to, but you can't, that's why you don't try.
Dude it’s just exhausting. That’s why I don’t respond
I know it's true. You know it's true. No need to bullshite about it.
One of us is providing nuanced discussion with a shite ton of data to back it up. The other just whines and says you're a hater while providing no substance. But you think the latter provides more value to the board.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:01 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Correct, and nothing you just said proves anything you said right or anything I said wrong.
You literally said like 2 days ago after the bulls game that even if it works for 5 games and we go on a run that you would never believe in this team with BI as a second option
But again, anytime you want to discuss the data, let me know.
Until then, you'll keep irrationally hating while providing no actual content.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:02 pm to shel311
quote:
Nonsense, you can't have a rational discussion and refute anything I said. You want to, but you can't, that's why you don't try.
You quite literally ignored all the basketball discussion in the post and only quoted the first and last sentence
How the frick do you actually take yourself seriously? Because I certainly can’t
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:03 pm to Terrific Tales
Can't you two just text each other?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:04 pm to shel311
quote:
Don’t worry, if we win tomorrow and look good (which could happen since we’ll, for the second time this season, have a healthy team), it will flip from we have to trade Ingram to we will be a top 4 seed in the West. I truly don’t know how some of these posters function in real life with the bi-polar tendencies. Not for me. We can win the next 5,it won't change my stance nor will it refute any of the points I made. BI is not a #2 on a title team. His best skill in his game is something he's league average at, if not below league of average, and that's scoring efficiency. Outside of scoring, he doesn't really bring much. So if he's going to just be a scorer, he needs to do it at elite efficiency levels. We know he cannot do that. So what's left?
quote:
Say you don’t believe it will last when we’re playing well I've never once said that.
Lmfao bro so this is not you saying you wouldn’t believe in it even if we played well???
Lmfao dude you’re a fricking joke
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:05 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:So your schtick is to ignore all the posts I made with relevant data but to demand that I respond to your basketball points, am I reading this correctly?
You quite literally ignored all the basketball discussion in the post and only quoted the first and last sentence
How the frick do you actually take yourself seriously? Because I certainly can’t
Go ahead, give an honest answer to that question...I'll wait.
Remember, I said an honest answer...
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:07 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:There you have it, if we win 5 in a row, you must be an idiot if you don't think that'll last forever.
Lmfao bro so this is not you saying you wouldn’t believe in it even if we played well???
Lmfao dude you’re a fricking joke
GENIUS!!!
Nevermind that we started 4-1 and then lost 5 in a row, who cares about that, or any of the other of 1000s of examples of short term success or losing being meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Seems like you love to hang on the last couple of games of data, while those who have higher basketball IQ know that any short term success is largely not important if it can't be sustained over a large representative sample size.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:13 pm to shel311
quote:
We don't need him to replicate 24ppg of average to below average efficiency scoring like BI. Making him a #2 that can give you a MUCH better efficiency at 20ppg is better than what BI gives you.
BI shot 48% from the field and 39% from 3 last year
Are his numbers down this year so far? Yes. But claiming that BI is a below average efficiency scorer is just completely baseless
Trey Murphy shot 40% from 3 and 53% from the field, which yes is more efficient
It’s also on 80% assisted shots, which is not something you can have your #2 option do. Creation is so paramount in this league, and acting like just because Trey shoots more efficiently on completely different shots that he is not creating himself he can fill BI’s role is just asinine
Now, do I think Trey Murphy has that potential? Yes absolutely. But right now he cannot take over as the #2 option for this team. He just cant
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:18 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Brandon Ingram was literally below average at scoring efficiency last season.
BI shot 48% from the field and 39% from 3 last year
Are his numbers down this year so far? Yes. But claiming that BI is a below average efficiency scorer is just completely baseless
Not only is that not "baseless" it's not even my opinion. It's just a fact. You can argue on emotions all you want, but that doesn't make things so. I can show you facts, things that are so.
Check BI's TS%, check league average TS%. BI was below average at scoring last season.
quote:Trey Murphy at elite level scoring efficiency last season, BI had below average.
Trey Murphy shot 40% from 3 and 53% from the field, which yes is more efficient
quote:You sure about that? I can think of one of the best offenses of all time who proves this theory wrong.
It’s also on 80% assisted shots, which is not something you can have your #2 option do.
quote:See my CJ posts that you also ignored just to whine and complain.
Creation is so paramount in this league, and acting like just because Trey shoots more efficiently on completely different shots that he is not creating himself he can fill BI’s role is just asinine
CJ is every bit as productive as BI compared to usage. And you have 2 more seasons with CJ to see how Trey develops.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:27 pm to shel311
quote:
Check BI's TS%, check league average TS%. BI was below average at scoring last season.
No, he quite literally wasn’t. League average was 58.1 and BI was 58.2
quote:
You sure about that? I can think of one of the best offenses of all time who proves this theory wrong.
Listen, first off no time in the splash bros dynasty were either of them at 80% assisted shots. Second off, that offense relies on off ball movement and quick screening action. That may end up being Hawkins game, but it isn’t Trey’s, not to the extent that you’re proposing
I understand your point about CJ, but I also think it’s not wise to assume that CJ won’t drop off sometime in the next 2 years, and if he does that leaves us with a window missed, because once these guys are completely off their rookie deals there is just no way we will be able to afford this whole team
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:28 pm to shel311
Another pissing match thread. Geez.
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