re: So to all the posters who were on the "Trump committed fraud to get his loans" crowd

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Can you point out where in Section 63(12) does it require the government to prove that financial losses were incurred or that someone must be declared “a victim”?

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How can you be this dumb? Fraud, by definition, requires there be a victim of fraud.

There is NO victim here, hence, there is no fraud.