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re: So to all the posters who were on the "Trump committed fraud to get his loans" crowd

Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:43 pm to
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He thinks he can be a victim on someone else’s behalf, even though that someone else has stated they aren’t a victim.
Can you point out where in Section 63(12) does it require the government to prove that financial losses were incurred or that someone must be declared “a victim”?
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Can you point out where in Section 63(12) does it require the government to prove that financial losses were incurred or that someone must be declared “a victim”?


How can you be this dumb? Fraud, by definition, requires there be a victim of fraud.

There is NO victim here, hence, there is no fraud.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:07 pm to
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Can you point out where in Section 63(12) does it require the government to prove that financial losses were incurred or that someone must be declared “a victim”?


Can you produce the valuation that proves the values supplied by trump were fraudulent?
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