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re: Does Newsome officially start his campaign tomorrow night?

Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Ron isn’t the best debated out there. Should be an interesting evening.
On the flip side of he does do well it will give him a boost past Nikki


Ron is easily the best debater currently in the race. He is calm and has outstanding recall on facts and figures and he can point to specific accomplishments. He has a clear voice and comes across as an adult and he is very precise with his language. He very, very rarely makes a mistake and in a 1v1 that is unlikely to occur.

I mean Trump was never great at debating but he looked terrible last cycle and I can't imagine how bad he will be this cycle.

Vivek has moments where he is awesome but he's also very rehearsed. All of his jabs are pre planned. He also oversteps and makes himself very unlikable, the attack on Haley's daughter is a good example. While I'm sure some think it was awesome that was a MAJOR turnoff for most people and it didn't gain him any new support.

Haley is just a wind up toy. It's all talking points and rehearsed crap. She actually is the most like Newsom on the GOP side.

Oh and spare me with the "They shouldn't be debating!" idiocy. Debates and discussion like this is what politics should be about. We need a lot more of this and not less. it reminds me of the Cruz/Sanders debate on Health Care. We all benefit.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:19 pm to
Ron is not a good debater, unless you define good debater by English teacher standards. Winning a debate is not the same as being accurate. He's awkward, his facial expressions take more attention than his words. I like him a lot, but wish he would have never moved into the public eye. He's like a running back that has speed and size but no ability to hit the right hole.

Ron parried debating Newsom for quite a while, but now that he's dropping for months in a row he's going to take this hail Mary. Newsom is going to kill Ron, because he's a slick guy.

This is a last hurrah for both guys - Newsom needs to convince enough people to dethrone a sitting president (unbelievably hard to do) and Ron needs to convince people to give him money again (also hard to do).
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 4:21 pm
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