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re: Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?

Posted on 11/25/23 at 10:27 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 10:27 am to
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I don't agree with the Trinitarian formula. God is one. It's not hard to understand. Just as I am a father to my son, a son to my mom, and a brother to my brother, yet I am one person.
Same difference. Different manifestations of one God.
The Father in Creation. The son in Atonement. Holy Spirit working his will after Jesus.
Jesus said it himself, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father.
Doesn’t make much sense for the Father to be talking about Himself in saying He is well pleased in the Son at His baptism, nor for the Son to pray to Himself (the Father) before His arrest. It’s also quite strange for the Son to ask why He has forsaken Himself when He asks that of the Father on the cross.

As difficult as it is to understand the concept of three persons sharing one divine nature, it makes even less sense for the Father, Son, and Spirit to be one person.


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God is also not a father exactly like we are fathers, nor a son exactly like we are sons. The Father didn't create through sexual union and the Son wasn't born of a woman prior to His incarnation (and even at His incarnation, He wasn't the product of sexual union). The Son is begotten of the Father eternally (He had no beginning), and the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son eternally, so that all three persons have a co-equality and existence in a way that we do not have with our fathers or sons.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 10:57 am to
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Doesn’t make much sense for the Father to be talking about Himself in saying He is well pleased in the Son at His baptism, nor for the Son to pray to Himself (the Father) before His arrest. It’s also quite strange for the Son to ask why He has forsaken Himself when He asks that of the Father on the cross


The flesh crying out to the spirit. Makes more sense to me than trying to explain three seperate persons are singular.
Similar to baptism. Jesus said baptize in the NAME of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Read in ACTS how the disciples baptized. In the name of Jesus. My belief is when I arrive in heaven (hopefully I do), I will see Jesus. Not 3 separate persons.
Personally, I don't think it's a salvific issue. You do you.
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