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re: Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:58 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:58 am to 4cubbies
Jews don't accept Jesus as divine. Jesus was God manifested in flesh. In order for fallen man to be in direct commune with God, a perfect sacrifice has to be offered. In the old testament it was sheep, goats, etc. which people brought brought the Temple priest to be sacrificed. Jesus was was perfect because of his divinity(no sin). In the Temple was the Holiest of Holies where God's presence
dwelled in the Ark of the Covenant, it was seperated by a veil. Only priest could enter.
When Jesus died on the cross, the veil was ripped. There no longer is anything between man's access to God.
Jesus was the fulfillment of Old Testament (Jewish) prophecy.
dwelled in the Ark of the Covenant, it was seperated by a veil. Only priest could enter.
When Jesus died on the cross, the veil was ripped. There no longer is anything between man's access to God.
Jesus was the fulfillment of Old Testament (Jewish) prophecy.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:08 pm to lake chuck fan
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In the Temple was the Holiest of Holies where God's presence dwelled in the Ark of the Covenant,
In the alleged time of Jesus, the ark of the covenant was no longer in the temple. Theories include the Babylonians capturing it, or the Jews hiding it and losing track of it while trying to escape before the siege of the city.
Ever wonder why GOD had to have a little box to live in? He hated the idea of living in a stone sculpture or wooden or brazen bull or golden figurine - that was for the other gods of Canaan and the Philistines and others. For a god that is supposed to have created the universe and existed as an invisible spirit that has a presence everywhere in the universe simultaneously, why would he need a little box in a temple in Jerusalem?
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In order for fallen man to be in direct commune with God, a perfect sacrifice has to be offered.
Ever thought, “why is that?” Why couldn’t God snap his fingers or twitch his nose and make everything good? Why did he have to have his son killed, to solve a problem he created?
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When Jesus died on the cross, the veil was ripped. There no longer is anything between man's access to God.
It sure is convenient that the temple was destroyed in 70CE, hence the day of atonement ritual which atoned for a years’ worth of sin could no longer be practiced. Sure would be nice to have an excuse to not need the temple anymore, since the “perfect sacrifice” took place which negated the need for the Yom Kippur sacrifice of the two unblemished goats. Interestingly, most of the New Testament literature dates to after 70CE, with the exception of about 7 epistles of Paul and maybe the Apocalypse of John.
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Jews don't accept Jesus as divine.
Modern Jews descended from the practices of Herod’s temple, no, I agree with you. However, Jews like the Essenes who rejected the second temple as corrupt, were waiting for the anointed king of the Jews to return to restore the temple and its practices to the ways of the first temple from before the Babylonian exile. Jesus threatened to tear down the temple and rebuild it. Christians descended from the Jews who practiced first temple polytheism of Solomon in secret, and their theology was enshrined in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It really is fascinating- you should check them out. It’s not too often on here anyone is talking about the first temple practices of the veil, holy of holies, and the ark.
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