re: Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?

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I think you are mixing words here a little Foo.... as are many others. It is the same God overall, the Jews and Muslims disagree with the Christians as to God's nature. Christians see a triune God who is one entity....God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is One God with three different natures.

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I think you've got it turned around. The Christian teaching is that God is one in nature but three in persons. Christians see a triune God that is one in essence in three persons.

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As Christians we are taught and believe that salvation is possible right now because of the sacrifice of the Son on the Cross and his resurrection on the third day.

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Amen. Exactly.

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The Jews look at this and essentially say Christians are mistaken and that you cannot have a God with three distinct persons or natures and if there are three distinct natures, it's not one God, but three. That's where the Christian mysticism comes into play and the Christians call it the mystery of faith.

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Again I'll say that the Christian teaching is that God is three in persons and one in essence or nature. It's a mystery in the sense that there is no analogy to the Trinity in our human experience, which is why attempts to describe the Trinity with eggs, water, or other things wind up in heresy.

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The Jews and the Muslims say that God is God. You cannot "split" him up yet have him be the same singular entity/being as you started with. The Christians respond that all three natures have been present from the start...you just were not paying attention. Which is why making God flesh in the person of Jesus was necessary to demonstrate his love and his understanding of man, his greatest creation. If you accept Jesus, you are accepting God and as such you accept the inevitability of salvation and eternal life after death.....the Jews say you are going to have to wait until the Final Day. Christians say you don't have to, you accept Jesus as the Son of God as God in and of himself you are saved.

Muslims sort of hybrid this approach because they do have a path to immediate paradise.....Jews do not....when you are dead , you are dead....for a long long time.

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The reason why I'm standing firm on the Jews and Muslims worshipping a different god than the Biblical God is precisely because God revealed Himself plainly through Jesus Christ. It's one thing to not be clear in your understanding of the three persons, but it's another thing entirely to reject that the Spirit is God and the Son is God.

Since God is three in persons and one in essence, then to deny that is to reject the revelation of God about Himself in order to worship an idol of man's own making. The Muslims and the Jews both worship idols because they do not worship the God who has revealed Himself. It's also why in a previous post I mentioned Deists, who create their own idol in believing in a god that is not who has revealed Himself through the Bible and especially through the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

To not believe in the trinue God as revealed in the Scriptures is to break the 1st commandment (creating an idol), the 2nd commandment (not worshipping God as He has commanded), and the 3rd commandment (rejecting the Word of God and the attributes and works contained in who He is). The Jews reject Jesus as God, as do the Muslims. Since Jesus is God, rejecting Jesus as God is to reject who God really is.