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re: Has to be a solution to homeless ruining cities

Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:21 am to
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:21 am to
The hard fact is that there are a lot of homeless in America. Also, it is much easier for homeless to scrape out a living in cities, where there is a concentration of people, services, places to sleep, food, etc. That is why there aren't many homeless in small towns, because you just can't find food or donations on any steady basis.

The idea that this is a Republican/Democrat issue is pure BS. Neither party has any idea or policy to solve or even reduce the problem. Neither party is even really studying the problem.

Until we have some sort of breakthrough insight, the homeless will continue to congregate in cities and will continue to hit you up for food and drugs.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:00 am to
quote:

The idea that this is a Republican/Democrat issue is pure BS. Neither party has any idea or policy to solve or even reduce the problem. Neither party is even really studying the problem.


I don't think this is entirely true. While I don't believe any viable solution has been proposed, the democrats think they know how to solve the problem. Democrats think that the answer is just giving homeless people housing. Unfortunately, that doesn't address the root cause of why people become homeless. Give them a home, and then what? They'll continue doing the same thing, not contribute to society, and also destroy their new home.

Democrats also seem to think that if housing can't be provided, you should let them camp wherever and destroy green spaces, parks, or any open areas that are maintained by tax dollars.

The problem with these approaches is that any person addicted to drugs is perfectly fine with continuing their lifestyle if they can live in a tent, or are provided housing. There is zero incentive to change and better themselves because it is easier to just beg for drug money and sleep in a tent, than to get clean and work to earn money to support yourself.

I wish I knew what the solution was, but I know it isn't any of the above and will have to be some sort of incentive based system and tough love. There has to be consequences for breaking laws.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:32 pm to
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The idea that this is a Republican/Democrat issue is pure BS. Neither party has any idea or policy to solve or even reduce the problem. Neither party is even really studying the problem.


And keep one other thing in mind. I have a friend who lives in Portland and tells me it is NOT just the liberals. As he says, liberals pass all these laws allowing homeless people to do damage, but when challenged almost all these laws are upheld not by liberals but by libertarian judges who think there should be no such thing as anti loitering laws or anti drug laws. Apparently there is a big "libertarian streak" in Oregon legal circles and they keep winning judicial elections out there.
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