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I tracked all of the 3rd & Longs against the LSU defense

Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78793 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:18 am
Against P5 opponents. 3rd & long defined as 3rd & 8+ yards.

FSU
3rd & 12- 18 yard completion
3rd & 13- 10 yard completion
3rd & 8- 13 yard rush
2/3 conversion rate

MSU
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 17- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 10- 7 yard completion- punt on 4th down
3rd & 8- sack
3rd & 13- 9 yard rush- converted 4th & 4
3rd & 12- 11 yard completion- penalty on 4th & 1, turnover on downs
3rd & 9- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
0/10 conversion rate

Arkansas
3rd & 9- 14 yard completion
3rd & 16- sack
3rd & 9- 26 yard completion
3rd & 18- roughing the passer
3/4 conversion rate

Ole Miss
3rd & 11- 15 yard TD
3rd & 12- 7 yard completion
3rd & 10- 3 yard loss
3rd & 10- 16 yard completion
3rd & 12- incomplete
3rd & 11- 12 yard completion
3rd & 11- 35 yard completion
4/7 conversion rate

Missouri
3rd & 8- 20 yard completion
3rd & 15- 10 yard completion- converted 4th & 5
3rd & 9- 12 yard rush
3rd & 12- 17 yard completion
3rd & 13- sack
3rd & 10- incomplete
4/6 conversion rate

Auburn
3rd & 8- 12 yard loss
3rd & 8- incomplete
3rd & 23- 6 yard rush
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 9- 4 yard completion
0/5 conversion rate

Alabama
3rd & 11- 11 yard rush
3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD
3rd & 10- 18 yard rush
3/3 conversion rate

Florida
3rd & 8- sack/fumble
3rd & 18- 11 yard run
3rd & 13- LSU penalty > 3rd & 8- 18 yard pass
3rd & 11- LSU penalty > 3rd & 6- 4 yard run
3rd & 11- 12 yard pass
3rd & 30- 18 yard pass- converted 4th & 12
3/6 conversion rate, including 4th & 12


19/44- 43% total. This is ASTOUNDINGLY bad, like almost hard to fathom. For reference, our 3rd & Long defense against P5 teams would rank 103rd in the country by itself and our total 3rd down defense is 125th at 46.5%. We are almost as bad at defending 3rd & Long as we are at defending ALL 3rd downs, including the Grambling and Army games.


This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 8:39 am
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
10839 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:19 am to
3rd and House a real thing
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
83547 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:19 am to
Take out auburn and Miss State yikes
Posted by NorthstarinLA
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:20 am to
Great analysis and shows how soft they play on 3rd n long...play 10yds off on a 3rd n 9? Like WTH are you doing? Terrible
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15377 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:21 am to
I will be worse next year.
Posted by bcflash
bossier city
Member since Oct 2016
559 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:21 am to
Bring back 3rd and Chavis!
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78793 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:21 am to
Auburn and MSU are SEC teams so it’s not fair to omit them…but yes, those 2 outliers make things look a lot better
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
83547 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:22 am to
I understand that
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78793 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:35 am to
Hard to imagine it getting worse. And we’ll have a new DC.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64614 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Auburn and MSU are SEC teams so it’s not fair to omit them…


But their offenses are a couple of the worst in the country.

We should absolutely omit them from the discussion.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101961 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:43 am to
quote:

16/38- 42% total



16/23 (70%) Excluding State and Auburn's shitty offenses.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78793 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:56 am to
Our defense is among the worst in the country

Whatever. The point is that these numbers are horrific.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175896 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Bring back 3rd and Chavis!

LSU wins the game with pretty much anyone else at DC. We needed the Chavis who contained Johnny Football twice.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9766 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:07 am to
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This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78793 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:39 am to
BUMP. Updated to include Florida game. Will tally all games after the season.
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