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I really like this writer's proposal for a football playoff
Posted on 12/4/08 at 8:04 am
Posted on 12/4/08 at 8:04 am
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This writer makes alot of sense. But the powers at be really don't care about crowning a true national champion....they only care about money
This writer makes alot of sense. But the powers at be really don't care about crowning a true national champion....they only care about money
This post was edited on 12/4/08 at 8:12 am
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Posted on 12/4/08 at 8:23 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Wow such an original proposal 
The media has more to lose than anyone with a playoff, they wouldn't be able to bitch about it. That being said, every year the BCS has pretty much resulted in the best team winning the national championship. It's not like it's boxing or anything.
The media has more to lose than anyone with a playoff, they wouldn't be able to bitch about it. That being said, every year the BCS has pretty much resulted in the best team winning the national championship. It's not like it's boxing or anything.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 8:29 am to ironsides
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The media has more to lose than anyone with a playoff, they wouldn't be able to bitch about it. That being said, every year the BCS has pretty much resulted in the best team winning the national championship. It's not like it's boxing or anything.
What about Auburn in 2004 who went undefeated and got shafted? What about the smaller schools who really have no shot at playing for a title? Boise St. showed a few years ago when they beat OU that there are some smaller schools that can compete with the big boys! Even this year it looks like it's going to be a disaster with all the one loss team. It's sad that the greatest sport on earth doesn't determine its champion on the field of play.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 8:53 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
That is the worst proposal imaginable. Why in the hell does Bama have to play Troy to prove that they are a champion??? That is ludicrous.
The fact is not everything in life can be wrapped up real pretty and put into standard size compartments. Div 1 football is too big (almost 200 teams??)to fit nicely. The road to a national championship will always be messy. I am holding out for a 6 team playoff, thats right two of them get a bye.
Troy vs bama...how moronic. Must be some geek that prefered playing nintendo on a sunny sunday afternoon insted of gettiing into a sandlot football game with his buds in ole lady Smiths sideyard!
The fact is not everything in life can be wrapped up real pretty and put into standard size compartments. Div 1 football is too big (almost 200 teams??)to fit nicely. The road to a national championship will always be messy. I am holding out for a 6 team playoff, thats right two of them get a bye.
Troy vs bama...how moronic. Must be some geek that prefered playing nintendo on a sunny sunday afternoon insted of gettiing into a sandlot football game with his buds in ole lady Smiths sideyard!
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:04 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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It's sad that the greatest sport on earth doesn't determine its champion on the field of play.
that is nothing more than what we have now with an expanded field
the bcs is still used to see who selects who "plays for the title" and this debunks any "settling iton the field"
it is still settled by computers and pollsters. theonly difference is you have 14 more teams playing for it
how is that better?
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Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:06 am to SCTiger
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Div 1 football is too big (almost 200 teams??)t
Only off by about 60%, there are 120 Div 1-A teams.
It's not too big to do, it's just that there is too much money in the current system.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:08 am to geauxaces
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it's just that there is too much money in the current system.
it isn't the amount of money, it is how the money would be divided up
conferences want to control their own money and there is competition for that money
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:14 am to LSUfan4444
I don't want to see anything more than the system we have now with a +1 at the end. The regular season is MUCH too fun to mess with.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:16 am to SG_Geaux
Because who needs a meaningful and exciting regular season. Let's make the regular season worthless and uniteresting like every other sport. Let's crown the hottest team champs and forget about what happens in the first two months of the season.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:17 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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What about Auburn in 2004 who went undefeated and got shafted
Auburn shafted themselves with shitty OOC scheduling. Gotta have a decent schedule to beat out the other teams with similar records.
Scheduling the Citadel killed Auburn, while bowling green having a good season helped Oklahoma. Bottom line is that your rent-a-wins have to be a little respectable (e.g. at least 1 from a BCS conference) in order to get to the dance.
Auburn 2004 OOC Schedule:
Louisiana- Monroe (5-7)
The Citadel (3-7 in IAA)
Louisiana Tech (6-6)
Oklahoma 2004 OOC Schedule:
Bowling Green (9-3)
Houston (3-8)
Oregon (5-7)
USC 2004 OOC Schedule:
VaTech (9-2)
Colorado State (4-7)
BYU (5-6)
Notre Dame (6-6)
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:17 am to SG_Geaux
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I don't want to see anything more than the system we have now with a +1 at the end
this is really the only season since the inception of the BCS that you could possibly see 4 teams having a legit gripe
and the season isn't quite over yet
IF Bama gets crushed by UF, they have no argument...so again, we are back to 3 teams with legitimate argument....Texas, UF and OU
IMOfwiwSTFUlol
Posted on 12/4/08 at 9:24 am to ironsides
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Scheduling the Citadel killed Auburn,
No, starting the season ranked below USC and OU is what killed Auburn. The media wanted USC and OU all year long and that is what they got.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:11 pm to SG_Geaux
I'm shocked at how many of you are opposed to a playoff. It makes no freakin sense to do it the way we do it now. How do we know that Texas and OU didn't just benefit from a conference with weak defenses? I mean three teams averaged over 500 yds/game in total offenses! How do we know Bama and Florida didn't benefit from playing a weakened SEC this year? I mean our next best team got beat by Ga Tech, who isn't even playing in their conference title game! The writer of the article makes a good point, how would USC do at the horseshoe in the middle of December? That interests me a whole heck of a lot more than most bowls I'm going to see this year.
If teams want to play a weak schedule, then they will be exposed in a playoff scenario when they play legit opponents. Until then we will see big boys feast on directional schools, and then we can all have so much fun speculating on who the best team is. Yeah, that's a whole lot better than having a playoff!!
If teams want to play a weak schedule, then they will be exposed in a playoff scenario when they play legit opponents. Until then we will see big boys feast on directional schools, and then we can all have so much fun speculating on who the best team is. Yeah, that's a whole lot better than having a playoff!!
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:22 pm to duboisd
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If teams want to play a weak schedule, then they will be exposed in a playoff scenario when they play legit opponents
you're assuming the better teams win and advance, but that is not how playoffs work
they reward teams who play better the last few games of the season and reward the "hot" teams, not "best" teams based on a season long body of work
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:27 pm to LSUfan4444
Yeah, but a season long body of work is different in each conference. By your standards, why isn't Boise St, Ball St, or Utah in the title game? Their season long body of work is perfection. There are playoffs at every level of sports competition and DI football should have one too.
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:32 pm to duboisd
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Yeah, but a season long body of work is different in each conference
i completely agree
which is why we need to have a "playoff" during the regular season
every BCS conference team much play 2 of their 4 ooc games against bcs conf teams (1 home & 1 road)
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By your standards, why isn't Boise St, Ball St, or Utah in the title game?
b/c by my standards mid majors would have toplay 3 opponants from bcs conf schools, all on the road and neither of them have done that. this is actually less road gamesagainst BCS conf teams than what BCS conf teams play
and the best part of a poll is, just because you have more wins or more losses, it doesn'tmean the poll says you are better
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There are playoffs at every level of sports competition
and few are as popular and none are attended as much as college football.....the one that doesn't have a playoff
This post was edited on 12/4/08 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:36 pm to LSUfan4444
playoffs work in professional sportsb/c they are built for parity and schedules are supposed to be similar and equal....this is not the case for college football
it is set up for the good to get great and the great to stay great
if you want to "fix" what's wrong with college football, find a way to achieve more regular season scheduling equality among bcs conferences and teams
it is set up for the good to get great and the great to stay great
if you want to "fix" what's wrong with college football, find a way to achieve more regular season scheduling equality among bcs conferences and teams
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:39 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
16 is too many damn teams. A 7-4 Troy State team should get in the playoffs? They lost to LSU for crying out loud!
4-8
Auto-bid conferences should be based on who has won recent championships.
For instance, an 8 team playoff should have 4 auto-bids given to the last 4 conferences to have a team to win the NC. (SEC, Big 12, Pac 10, and Big 10 right now)
The other 4 should be the top 4 ranked teams other than the 4 autobids
They lost to LSU for crying out loud! 4-8
Auto-bid conferences should be based on who has won recent championships.
For instance, an 8 team playoff should have 4 auto-bids given to the last 4 conferences to have a team to win the NC. (SEC, Big 12, Pac 10, and Big 10 right now)
The other 4 should be the top 4 ranked teams other than the 4 autobids
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:42 pm to LSUfan4444
I like the idea of having two OOC games against BCS schools, but I still don't see how that is an in-season playoff.
Utah wouldn't have to because they are #6. It is far better than the alternative for non-BCS schools right now. Do you think Boise St would rather play in the Poinsettia Bowl or be given the opportunity to prove they belong with the best in college football? I think they would jump at the opportunity.
I wouldn't me upset if the top two teams from each conference were included in a playoff. That's just me though. Heck, I would take a plus-one system if were seeded like a four-team play
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by my standards mid majors would have toplay 3 opponants from bcs conf schools, all on the road. this is actually less road gamesagainst BCS conf teams than what BCS conf teams play
Utah wouldn't have to because they are #6. It is far better than the alternative for non-BCS schools right now. Do you think Boise St would rather play in the Poinsettia Bowl or be given the opportunity to prove they belong with the best in college football? I think they would jump at the opportunity.
I wouldn't me upset if the top two teams from each conference were included in a playoff. That's just me though. Heck, I would take a plus-one system if were seeded like a four-team play
Posted on 12/4/08 at 2:43 pm to LSUfan4444
I like the idea of having two OOC games against BCS schools, but I still don't see how that is an in-season playoff.
Utah wouldn't have to because they are #6. It is far better than the alternative for non-BCS schools right now. Do you think Boise St would rather play in the Poinsettia Bowl or be given the opportunity to prove they belong with the best in college football? I think they would jump at the opportunity.
I wouldn't me upset if the top two teams from each conference were included in a playoff. That's just me though. Heck, I would take a plus-one system if were seeded like a four-team playoff.
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by my standards mid majors would have toplay 3 opponants from bcs conf schools, all on the road. this is actually less road gamesagainst BCS conf teams than what BCS conf teams play
Utah wouldn't have to because they are #6. It is far better than the alternative for non-BCS schools right now. Do you think Boise St would rather play in the Poinsettia Bowl or be given the opportunity to prove they belong with the best in college football? I think they would jump at the opportunity.
I wouldn't me upset if the top two teams from each conference were included in a playoff. That's just me though. Heck, I would take a plus-one system if were seeded like a four-team playoff.
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