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re: Kid who beat teacher for taking away his Nintendo has pled guilty. Punishment?

Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Nobody is saying "it is their fault and they should have raised him better." They are saying regardless of the kids situation, there are consequences in this society for anyone who nearly beats someone to death without reason. They are saying regardless of the kid's situation, society must be protected from people like that.


A) Are you blind? There are plenty of posters here saying essentially that, ie, stating all kinds of tropes about absent fathers, dependent mothers, etc.

B) I have yet to see anybody (including myself) say that there should be no consequences. This is a hard case, though, and what kind of humanity are you lacking to just want this kid thrown in a hole at the mercy of the merciless for decades?

C) Is prison the only way to insulate this kid from the triggers and risks, or is it just an easy way to forget about the problem?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:34 pm to
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C) Is prison the only way to insulate this kid from the triggers and risks, or is it just an easy way to forget about the problem?


Don't care.

We're more worried about protecting the Public from this "kid".


Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13358 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:11 pm to
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A) Are you blind? There are plenty of posters here saying essentially that, ie, stating all kinds of tropes about absent fathers, dependent mothers, etc.


I've seen many more tropes implying that the consequences for his violent (and apparently frequently violent) actions should be mitigated by his situation. I seriously doubt the lady who was attacked could feel the difference in the blows she took.

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B) I have yet to see anybody (including myself) say that there should be no consequences. This is a hard case, though, and what kind of humanity are you lacking to just want this kid thrown in a hole at the mercy of the merciless for decades?



Oh, but you have. You read the conditions of this kids IEP just like I did. Conditions that almost certainly did not come from the school, because I promise you there are consequences and repercussions enforced every day, for the normal kids who do shite wrong. And to answer your question, I guess I'm lacking the kind of humanity that needlessly puts the public at significant risk of becoming yet another victim of a person who has shown multiple times that he is unwilling or unable to control himself.

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C) Is prison the only way to insulate this kid from the triggers and risks, or is it just an easy way to forget about the problem?


Well, I guess you and your wife could probably adopt and try to educate him. Pro tip: Tell your wife to not find fault in anything he does, and not to punish him in any way for anything he does wrong. She'll probably be alright, until she mistakenly expects him to behave. Pro tip #2: Teach her to bob and weave. She might save herself from being beaten to death before you get there to save her.

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