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re: We are all Georgia fans.

Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:37 am to
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This doesn't compute big fella. If they win out and we beat them, they're likely to stay ahead of us as 12-1 defending back-to-back champs. That takes a spot away from us getting in potentially. If they lose a game and we also beat them, we would both be 11-2 with LSU having the head-to-head (and likely the Heisman winner), so we would have to be ahead of them. Don't overthink it.


First, LSU can't reach the SEC Championship game unless Ole Miss loses again. It's Ole Miss, so anything is possible, but on paper Georgia looks to be the most likely loss for them.

That aside, LSU's path as a 2 loss team is the same path Auburn (almost) took in 2017. On 10/31/17, Auburn was 6-2 with losses to Clemson and LSU. They were ranked #14 in the first CFP poll. They would go on to be #1 Georgia and #1 Alabama to end the season as 10-2 SEC West Champs. More importantly, they were ranked #2 in the final regular season CFP poll AHEAD of undefeated Wisconsin and 1 loss Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, and Miami.

Auburn went on to play Georgia in the SEC Championship game. Had they won, it seemed highly unlikely they were going to DROP from the #2 spot which meant they were going to get in over multiple one loss teams (namely Alabama and Wisconsin)

Right now LSU is ranked 15 behind several 0-1 loss teams. However, many of those teams still have games against one another. Washington and Oregon still have to play Utah and Oregon St.. Michigan still has to play Ohio State and Penn State. Ole Miss has to play Georgia. It seems likely Oklahoma and Texas will have to play again. Those teams are all currently ranked ahead of LSU. If LSU continues to win they are going to keep creeping up the rankings.

Personally, I don't see a one loss conf. championship game loser (Georgia in this discussion) getting in ahead of a 2 loss SEC championship winner (LSU in this discussion). When Georgia reached the playoffs in 2021 despite losing the SECCG it was because the only other 1 loss team in contention was Notre Dame...who wasn't in a conference and, thus, didn't have the argument over Georgia that they (ND) were a conf. champ while Georgia wasn't.

Last season TCU was undefeated and ranked #3 in the final reg season CFP poll. They lost the Big 12 championship game, yet still reached the playoffs. However, that was likely due, in large part because: (a) #4 USC lost in their conf. champ game and (b) teams #5 Ohio St. and #6 Alabama, didn't play in a conf. championship game. Thus, there was really no compelling argument for a 2 loss conf. champ to jump them because their was no 2 loss conf champ outside of Clemson in the ACC.

But here is maybe the most interesting thing people are forgetting. 9-2 LSU was ranked #5 in the CFP poll heading into their game vs. A&M last year behind UGA, Michigan, OSU, TCU. However, they were ranked AHEAD of 10-1 Pac 12 leader USC and 10-1 ACC leader Clemson. In that final regular season weekend #2 Ohio St. lost to Michigan. That dropped OSU from #2 to #5 and allowed #6 USC to move up to #4. The nauseating unknown is what would have happened if #5 LSU would have beaten A&M? Would the voters have put #6 USC ahead of #5 LSU regardless because USC beat #15 ND, while LSU beat 4-7 A&M? Maybe. But even in that scenario it's hard to imagine LSU would have dropped from #5. They may have stayed there. But not dropped. That would have opened the door for LSU to get in with a win over #1 UGA in the SECCG.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by Dotarian
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 12:22 pm to
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The nauseating unknown is what would have happened if #5 LSU would have beaten A&M?
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That would have opened the door for LSU to get in with a win over #1 UGA in the SECCG.

I hear what you're saying, but I don't see any way that last year's LSU team could have beaten that Georgia team, so the point is moot.

Yes, beating 4&7 would have been great, and would have put us in a better position after the SECCG for a better bowl. I just don't think we would have made it past Georgia either way to get a chance at the final four.

Just my opinion.
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