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re: War is coming. I rarely start threads on this board.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:16 pm to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:16 pm to Pandy Fackler
So much wrong with your post, even though you are right that there is a MIC that wants war.
First, we do NOT want war in the Middle East. That's why the war was started by our enemies and not us. It's very obvious what is going on. Iran, and Russia and China, are trying to force Israel into a shooting war with the wider Middle Eastern Muslim countries, particularly Iran.
The idea is to force America's MIC into feeding weapons and materiel into that theater at the same time we are supplying Ukraine. It's likely that, if they can do that, China will attack Taiwan. Our enemies have united and are trying to force us into this Middle Eastern war. The Biden administration is trying to isolate the war to Israel/Gaza.
As this progresses, and America/Israel does not take the Iran bait, look for more obvious provocation, like attacks on our ships. Contrary to your opinion, America will do its best to avoid those provocations and contain the war, all the while ramping up our MIC so that we can handle the coming challenges.
We might not be successful containing it, but that is clearly our intention.
Another gross mistake you made was to say that the point of the Korean, Vietnamese, and Gulf Wars was to make money. You also say we haven't won a war since WW2, which is knownothingism. We won the First Gulf War in a shockingly fast manner, or is Iraq still in Kuwait? We won the Second Gulf War as well. Then there are minor wars won like Grenada and Panama.
The Korean War ended in a stalemate, so it definitely wasn't won. The Vietnam War was lost, however, it is a slander to say it was fought for money. It was fought to halt the spread of communism, and it was a huge success. We bogged them down in Vietnam for so long that, when it was over the "Domino Theory" was also finished.
This is widely agreed upon, however, we don't fully control this.
If we were to leave Israel to its devices, and it was overwhelmed and defeated, do you think that would end our problems? Do you think the Ayatollahs would say, "This is close enough to a worldwide caliphate; we needn't do more"? Of course not. We would still be facing the three-headed enemy that is China, Russia and Iran, only the Middle Eastern battle would have moved to Turkey and Greece. Should we stay out of those conflicts, too?
When you finally realize that head-in-sand diplomacy gave you a short holiday and not a holiday from history the task facing us will be much harder than the one facing us now.
First, we do NOT want war in the Middle East. That's why the war was started by our enemies and not us. It's very obvious what is going on. Iran, and Russia and China, are trying to force Israel into a shooting war with the wider Middle Eastern Muslim countries, particularly Iran.
The idea is to force America's MIC into feeding weapons and materiel into that theater at the same time we are supplying Ukraine. It's likely that, if they can do that, China will attack Taiwan. Our enemies have united and are trying to force us into this Middle Eastern war. The Biden administration is trying to isolate the war to Israel/Gaza.
As this progresses, and America/Israel does not take the Iran bait, look for more obvious provocation, like attacks on our ships. Contrary to your opinion, America will do its best to avoid those provocations and contain the war, all the while ramping up our MIC so that we can handle the coming challenges.
We might not be successful containing it, but that is clearly our intention.
Another gross mistake you made was to say that the point of the Korean, Vietnamese, and Gulf Wars was to make money. You also say we haven't won a war since WW2, which is knownothingism. We won the First Gulf War in a shockingly fast manner, or is Iraq still in Kuwait? We won the Second Gulf War as well. Then there are minor wars won like Grenada and Panama.
The Korean War ended in a stalemate, so it definitely wasn't won. The Vietnam War was lost, however, it is a slander to say it was fought for money. It was fought to halt the spread of communism, and it was a huge success. We bogged them down in Vietnam for so long that, when it was over the "Domino Theory" was also finished.
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America should not drop one bomb, launch one missile or fire one single bullet in this conflict.
This is widely agreed upon, however, we don't fully control this.
If we were to leave Israel to its devices, and it was overwhelmed and defeated, do you think that would end our problems? Do you think the Ayatollahs would say, "This is close enough to a worldwide caliphate; we needn't do more"? Of course not. We would still be facing the three-headed enemy that is China, Russia and Iran, only the Middle Eastern battle would have moved to Turkey and Greece. Should we stay out of those conflicts, too?
When you finally realize that head-in-sand diplomacy gave you a short holiday and not a holiday from history the task facing us will be much harder than the one facing us now.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:37 pm to Penrod
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Iran, and Russia and China, are trying to force Israel into a shooting war with the wider Middle Eastern Muslim countries, particularly Iran.
The idea is to force America's MIC into feeding weapons and materiel into that theater at the same time we are supplying Ukraine. It's likely that, if they can do that, China will attack Taiwan. Our enemies have united and are trying to force us into this Middle Eastern war. The Biden administration is trying to isolate the war to Israel/Gaza.
What would Iran get out this plan? Seems like a shitty deal for them.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:01 pm to Penrod
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Vietnam War
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was fought to halt the spread of communism
So The U.S. helped the communists infect and spread in Eastern Europe in WW2, but fought against the communists spreading it in Vietnam?
So we were for communism before we were against it?
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