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re: Asian kid with 4.42GPA and 1590 on SAT denied by 16 colleges, Google hires him

Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:21 am to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:21 am to
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If an Asian of high intelligence is getting kept of great colleges, white people are screwed. POC of not yellow or white skin will get in with much lower academic standards.



Actually Asians have it a little harder than whites. Although that may be skewed by the white legacy admissions. The white legacy admissions make it tough for ivy leagues to justify a kid from a white working class family.


This.

My son is a very gifted student so I'm pretty deep into all of this. He'll be just fine but some of the things going on in admissions is pretty crazy. For example:

Stanford last year admitted 1800 Freshman prior to the SC decision. 23% was the target for Whites with 54% of that needing to be female. So that means about 190 or so white males were admitted. Now take out Legacies and Athletes. How many are left? Also, if you make less than around $90k per year as a family everything is fully paid for. If you make up to about $130k tuition is paid for. If you make more than that though, $75k per year to go to school.

So if you are a white male, upper middle class with Mom and Dad working and making a good living that has steadily increased in income you have virtually no shot to get in but if you somehow do it's going to cost around $300-350k for your Degree.

All of the Ivies and the next tier (Duke, Rice, Vandy, Carnegie Mellon, etc) are very similar to this. Stanford and the Ivies give ZERO merit scholarships btw, it's purely means based. Some of the others have a very, very limited number of scholarships. So what is happening is those schools are becoming the very wealthy and the lower middle class mixed in with a few others going into massive debt. It's crazy.

As for college in general if you aren't looking at ROI and getting a real skill it's likely not worth it. My son wants to do Biomedical Engineering for instance, have to go to college for that. Other son is doing Maritime Transportation with a License Option, have to go to school for that too. Both of them will have a high ROI and good jobs after they graduate if they work hard. Way too many kids are just going to 13th Grade though and mainly worried about what Frat or Sorority they will join and spending a fortune doing it.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:31 am to
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Also, if you make less than around $90k per year as a family everything is fully paid for. If you make up to about $130k tuition is paid for. If you make more than that though, $75k per year to go to school.


You get financial aid up to $300k a year depending on your circumstances.

You pay a maximum of $15,000 at $150k household income but it only hits $75k+ when your parents are making $200k+.

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23% was the target for Whites with 54% of that needing to be female


I don't think there's a gender quota - not one that goes against men. Elite schools get far more women applying than men these days - they're trying to be 50/50 as close as possible which means having to favor men.

Brown for example had a 60+% women applicant pool which means that men had a 50% higher acceptance rate than women.

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As for college in general if you aren't looking at ROI and getting a real skill it's likely not worth it. My son wants to do Biomedical Engineering for instance, have to go to college for that.


Going to college is for the connections you make + tapping into the alumni network. At elite schools, there will be lots of kids with connections, fathers and mothers who are partners at law firms, directors at banks etc.






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