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re: Will the S&P finish the year

Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:43 am to
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What do you think the rally will be built on?


Overly bearish sentiment/positioning and positive earnings surprises for Q3. I also think its highly unlikely we see a true recession until the labor market falls apart which until that happens, melt up.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:58 am to
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we'll be down into the middle of October and then rally end of year.


This.Think we hit 4000/3900 on S&P in middle of Oct then rally back a little above where we are now by end of year.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 9:59 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:22 am to
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Overly bearish sentiment/positioning and positive earnings surprises for Q3.


Fair enough. I see the spike in PPI over the last few months making positive earnings more difficult, but Lord knows I have been wrong before.

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I also think its highly unlikely we see a true recession until the labor market falls apart


100% agree. JPow has stated that an increase in Unemployment is one of the big indicators they are looking for to signal pause/reversal on rates. I think we've seen too much borrowing and spending (and borrowing to pay for borrowing) for that to not end up being a snowballing effect (ie: once jobs start being cut, consumers are no longer going to be able to afford to even just service all of the debt they've created).
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