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I can tell you firsthand the original unions stopped

Child labor (no more 6 year olds working deep mines)
Company towns (miners were basically indentured servants with no escape)
Long work weeks (no more 12 hour days busting coal 6 days a week)
Health issues (you worked till black lung took you, noting for the family)
Safety regulations (lots of dead back in the day)
Water issues (drinking black water and ponds breaks were real)
Law for hire (Imagine Bill Gates paying his local police)

Dude, I'm 53 years old. I heard all those things you mentioned from my great-grandfather, but that was ancient history to a young kid in the 1970's. I first-hand witnessed my dad not working because a shitbird was canned for napping while on the clock. I also closely paid attention to the union endorsement of a POTUS candidate that vowed to put a whole industry in the dumpster. Are we mining more coal or less since Obama was elected?

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Posted by Cheese Grits

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Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:52 am to greygoose

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Dude, I'm 53 years old.

You are a whippersnapper in my book!

You said 3 generations in the mines, where?

Have been less around unions the past 20 years so good to hear you input. That being said, anytime something gets big, the odds are probable they become more corrupt and inefficient.

Big government
Big religion
Big corporate
Big military
Big education

Since 1980 this country has embraced big everything when regional and local are usually the best long term solution. As Joe Craft got access to lots of western land I am guessing out coal output will rise but that will be machines, not more human jobs.

If you are early 50's and grew up you have to have seen where mechanization has replaced labor in railroads and mining. My question stands, how many "new" jobs are either creating now (D) or (R)?

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