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Iowa 2024: Trump holds 37-point lead for Republican Nomination

Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:34 pm
Iowa 2024: Trump holds 37-point lead for Republican Nomination

• Trump — 51% (+37)
• DeSantis — 14%
• Haley — 10%
• Ramaswamy — 9%

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Posted by tigerterrace
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:55 pm to
Iowa is dumb....They caucus and Caucus and keep doing it until they are able to wear down the other voters.

Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:56 pm to
But........











THE FAIR!!!!!!!!!
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:58 pm to
I'm surprised that NYT endorsement didn't do more for Haley in Iowa.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:03 pm to
I was told Iowa was rob country and he’d win potus because how well he did there.
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:11 pm to
Trump don’t need no Tilt A Whirl!
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:11 pm to
I look at these polls differently and not in a reassuring way.

I see Trump with 51% overall support which means 49% want someone else. The party is fractured. How does it coalesce around him when he’s as well known as he is? If this were 2015/2016 I would say these are fantastic numbers for a primary because he’s an unknown at that time. Now… it’s different. If he wins the nomination how does he win back the 49% that are currently against him in Iowa? Or do they fall in line out of tradition and back the party’s nominee? This is a problem he has to solve or he gets routed by the dem.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:14 pm to
Have the Ron Bots gone back to DU?

Seems like Displaced is the only true believer still left.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Figgy


Is this your first primary?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
Means 49% the minority is the problem
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Is this your first primary?


Far from it. But I don’t think the party has ever been divided quite like this before and it’s taken a more personal tone which isn’t ordinary or healthy. If there isn’t a unified front it won’t matter who the nominee is. If 10% of the establishment or MAGA side sit things out for whatever reason they come up with its catastrophic. Trump is that polarizing and MAGA is that loyal to see people simply check out for the general. That’s what I’m most fearful of.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Means 49% the minority is the problem


The Right has a problem because you’re seeing results like this in all states. How do the two sides comes together? The losing side may fall in line. But they may not. If they don’t… game over, man. Game over.

That 49% is a huge chunk of the Iowa voters and right now, when having an option, they want someone else. That’s bad news and the reasons why don’t matter. It has to be fixed.
Posted by ezride25
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

I see Trump with 51% overall support which means 49% want someone else.


It’s not like you get to add up all the “not Trump” votes to nominate a “not Trump” candidate. Although I suspect that’s what all the “popular vote” noise is all about. I’ll not turn this into a civics lesson, but 51% is pretty fricking comfy.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:42 pm to
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It’s not like you get to add up all the “not Trump” votes to nominate a “not Trump” candidate.


I’m not looking at it that way. But you can’t deny that right now they prefer someone else when given the chance. If Trump had the grip on the party that he did in say 2017 you’d see him with overwhelming support, far greater than 51%. He doesn’t have the support that he previously enjoyed. He’s a known commodity now and people are looking elsewhere. That’s indisputable. What does he need to do to get back to enjoying truly dominating support from the party and is that level of broad support from coast to coast even possible today? I don’t know if it is. But I’m certainly not against it happening.
Posted by Rebel
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Figgy


Did Biden win Iowa?

Didn’t Cruz win Iowa in 16?

This is a primary. I’m not sure you understand how it works.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
11791 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

The Right has a problem because you’re seeing results like this in all states.

It really only seems like such a huge problem when you compare it to how Democrats function. Otherwise that's kind of the way it's supposed to be.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:56 pm to


Yikes.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I see Trump with 51% overall support which means 49% want someone else.

Those numbers will only get worse.

Donald Trump will be a mere plurality winner for the nomination. Just like in 2016, the majority of Republican voters will vote for someone else to be the nominee.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:01 pm to
Just wait till Iowa, wait till the debates they said
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Did Biden win Iowa?


No.

quote:

Didn’t Cruz win Iowa in 16?


Yes.

quote:

This is a primary. I’m not sure you understand how it works.


What do you think I’m missing here? Trump can be the primary champ till his heart is content. If he cannot win people back to him, again remember that he is a known commodity now, how does he win the general? Which is what matters. I don’t give a crap about the primary. It’s time to fight it out and may the best man win. But afterwards… what happens? Think about that and get back to me.

I don’t look at Trump as your typical politician where party loyalty will win out when the chips are down. There’s an attachment both to him and against him that isn’t ordinary. Many people are all in with him with no other option considered for the general (I think this is crazy) while others are steadfastly against him and will not vote for him in the general (I think this is crazy too). We’ve done the threads here that show this to be true. If the party is fractured for the general even to the tune of 10% of voters we get our butts handed to us everywhere. My focus is on the general, Rebel.
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