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re: Colorado is trying to disqualify Trump from the ballot

Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:36 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:36 am to
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AT MOST an adjudication with due process would be needed
So that is the new threshold to be treated as a guilty citizen? Are we really trying to lower the bar for guilty charges for certain activities, like running for president, or is it just lowering the bar for certain people?
No one is lowering any bars. Section 3 is not a criminal matter, so the burdens of proof for a criminal proceeding need not apply.
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No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who ... shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:15 am to
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No one is lowering any bars. Section 3 is not a criminal matter, so the burdens of proof for a criminal proceeding need not apply.

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No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who ... shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion


The problem for the CO case is the underlined part has not been proven yet in a court of law under the presumption of innocence standard. I understand this is not a criminal proceeding but this non-criminal proceeding is appealing to a criminal act.
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