re: Patients taking Eli Lilly's retatrutide lost 58 pounds, on average, in a phase 2 clinical

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now in some cases on here...its people wanting others to make healthier lifestyle choices and just be better overall in life. I certainly understand that, but its not living in reality.

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This is pretty much where I stand on this and I agree sadly at least in America expecting people to diet and exercise is just not reality anymore. Too many excuses and quick fixes out there. I blame the Medical Community and our Government who have taken personal responsibility out of the equation when it comes to health and fitness. So many lies, untruths, outdated ways of doing things they still promote and it is literally turning people into obese slobs.