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re: Great analysis of the Maason Smith situation and NCAA incompetence

Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:03 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:03 am to
The US Supreme Court ruled athletes had the right to profit from their NIL on June 21st 2021.
How can Smith be punished for selling autographs in July of that year?
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:20 am to
It was supposedly two weeks prior to that ruling.
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1175 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:23 am to
I’m actually disappointed in the legal advice our athletic department is getting. 1) The act occurred after the Supreme Court ruling 2) There is no legal justification for Kayshon being able to choose his week and not Maason. For neither of these issues to be raised in court on his behalf is a failure of legal advice.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1323 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:53 am to
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The US Supreme Court ruled athletes had the right to profit from their NIL on June 21st 2021.



This is factually incorrect. The USSC has never issued a ruling on a student-athletes right to profit from their NIL because said issue has never been placed before the Supreme Court. The Alston ruling to which you reference was a concurrence with a lower court finding that the NCAA rules limiting educational related compensation, which in no way, shape or form includes NIL, for student-athletes violated provisions of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. The NCAA created its own NIL rules, which loosened the limitations on non-educational related compensation for student-athletes, on its own accord. Granted, the NCAA saw the writing on the wall that its limitation of non-educational compensation for student-athletes was ripe for future additional litigation, it acted on its own creating the NIL rules and setting a effective date for these rules.

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How can Smith be punished for selling autographs in July of that year?


Because the incident in question happened before the effective date (July 1, 2021).

The following is directly quoted from the Harvard Law Review analysis of the case NCAA v Alston in the very first paragraph:

"in NCAA v. Alston,
5. 141 S. Ct. 2141 (2021).
the Supreme Court upheld a district court ruling that the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) rules limiting education-related compensation violated section 1 of the Sherman Act.
6. See id. at 2151–52, 2166.
Shortly after the Court’s decision, the NCAA voted of its own accord to allow a student athlete to receive compensation in exchange for use of their name, image, and likeness (NIL).

7. The Alston holding did not compel the NCAA’s NIL decision because the ruling left the NCAA’s rules limiting compensation unrelated to education undisturbed. See id. at 2165.
Even after this series of changes, the NCAA still restricts the compensation that schools can provide directly to their athletes unrelated to education."

Alston case had nothing to do with NIL, the ruling in Alston was pertaining to the NCAA limiting education related compensation. Now, the NCAA saw the writing on the wall and passed their own NIL rules with an effective date. Any violation of the rules prior to the effective date of the New (at the time) NIL rules would still be a violation of the rules that were in effect at the time of said violation.

As a courtesy, below is a link to the Harvard Law Review of the Alston Decision for your reading pleasure.

HLR Analysis of Alston
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 11:27 am
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9728 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:35 am to
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The US Supreme Court ruled athletes had the right to profit from their NIL on June 21st 2021.

Contrary to popular belief, the US Supreme Court didn’t rule on NIL. The case was about other benefits provided by schools beyond what the NCAA allowed at the time.

Kavanaugh issued a concurring opinion on the case that blasted the NCAA’s business model and made clear that the NCAA was at major risk in future cases. But the ruling itself did not directly impact NIL because it wasn’t part of the case. Essentially, Kavanaugh’s opinion put “the writing on the wall” so to speak.

The thing that actually forced the NCAA’s hand was the wave of state laws legalizing NIL. The NCAA’s “interim” NIL policy went into effect at the same time as the first wave of state NIL laws. That deadline had already been looming long before the USSC ruling.

If anything, the USSC ruling’s real impact was to show the NCAA that they would get zero relief from the federal courts. This, combined with their failure lobbying for federal legislation, meant they could either comply with the new state laws or cease to exist.

ETA: I still think it’s bullshite that LSU would have been able to pick a game in 2022, but not in 2023 after his injury. That strikes me as a petty ruling by the NCAA. But I don’t think LSU/Maason have the legal standing to fight it that some of you are suggesting.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 11:43 am
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