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Offensive Line and down and distance has hurt LSU

Posted on 11/26/08 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Papa Purple and Gold
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
11197 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 2:36 pm
2 things that I think have been an achilles heel and have been LSU shooting itself in the foot are the play of the offensive line and LSU putting itself in unfavorable down and distance situations. How many times especially in recent games have we come out with Charles Scott up the middle on 1st and 2nd and 10's only for him to get stuffed for no gains or 1-2 yard gains. The O-Line hasn't blocked well for Scott and the other backs and Lee has been faced with the pressure of often facing 3rd and longs, which are low percentage plays and usually lead to us going 3 and out. The offensive line has been a disappointment this year, but hopefully next year and the rest of this year it will be better. It seems like Helms has struggled with some massive nose tackles and that Barksdale has had a pretty good number of false start penalties.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 2:42 pm to
Not as many as the times we try a pass on 1st down, which usually fails leaving us with 2nd and 10, which we then follow up with 2 draws and punt.
Posted by Papa Purple and Gold
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
11197 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 2:50 pm to
yes, passing incomplete on 1st and 10 and getting stuffed on runs on 2nd and 10 put us in the hole for sure.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34205 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 3:35 pm to
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2 things that I think have been an achilles heel and have been LSU shooting itself in the foot are the play calling of the Co-DCs and the soft zone scheme employed and LSU putting itself in unfavorable down and distance situations as a result of such a scheme


fixed it for ya
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63275 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 4:25 pm to
Acually, what concerne me FAR more is our repeated ability to turn 2nd and short into 3rd and long or 4th and short. And it ain't the line. It's the playcalling.

And for this team and the playcallers, 3 yards has become a long yardage situation.
Posted by TGK4LSU
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2005
2709 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 4:32 pm to
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2 things that I think have been an achilles heel and have been LSU shooting itself in the foot are the play of the offensive line and LSU putting itself in unfavorable down and distance situations


You have no idea what you're talking about. The reason the offense is ending up third & long so often is because opposing defenses are stacking the line with 8 & 9 players due our QBs inability to through the ball. The line can't block that many people. Every teams goal is to shut the run down and force LSU to throw the ball because bad things happen when they do.
This post was edited on 11/26/08 at 5:00 pm
Posted by trenchwarfare
Member since Jul 2008
16 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 4:37 pm to
LSU offense went from one dimensional to no dimensional....
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71352 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 4:48 pm to
If we are in a spread formation and they load the box someone has to be uncovered. We have at times gotten second and short and then we get a penalty to take it to 2nd and long. If they don't start running some sort of power game then the passes will never open up either. Its a catch 22, but the spread is supposed to help eliminate defenses from loading up on the line.
If LSU cannot do this with the personel they have out there, then go with a two tight end, two back power I and go at it.
Then maybe some play action might actually work.

LSU did use a two back and went away from it. WhY? I dunno.

Posted by TGK4LSU
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2005
2709 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 5:10 pm to
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but the spread is supposed to help eliminate defenses from loading up on the line.


We don't run the spread offense. We run something comparable to it, but not the spread. We do get penalties, but no more than any other team. The bottom line is we can't throw the ball so teams stack the line of scrimmage...period.
Posted by Bernie Ricks
Lacombe, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
118 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 5:17 pm to
yes they do use the spread, when they are in 4 or 5 wide receiver sets.
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