re: ATL thread 7/18 - Dbags (Frick) vs Braves (Elder) - 6:20 CDT

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I’m talking specifically about the arc of their year. All stars to letdowns.

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Your comparison was shite because Jair only sucked when he was injured, there is no comparison to how they pitched or had letdowns. Jair was a #2/#3 when healthy (and his peripherals supported that), when not healthy he was bad.

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If you think I’m foolish for being concerned about a pitcher with average stuff having a second half letdown, then great. We disagree.

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Too be clear, I agree with you about Elder, we don't disagree at all there. I was calling your comparison dumb because Jair was a tremendously better pitcher than Elder when healthy, not as a defense of Elder.

Elder is a pitcher with #4/#5 starter stuff. Even when he had an amazing ERA in the first half his FIP was in the 3.6/3.7 range. He was just extremely lucky for most of the first half. The only way Elder is going to be a #3 starter type is if he has extremely good control of his sinker in the strike zone, and for the last month or so he hasn't had that and has gotten rocked. Pitchers with barely above 90 mph fastballs like Elder have zero margin for error.