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re: "Constitutional carry” passes in the committee and will now move on to the House.

Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
683 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:53 pm to
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I guess we should put laws in place to prevent people from owning cars and driving based on this same assessment.
Nothing was said about barring ownership. My whole discussion was in the context of permitting concealed carry.
Do try to keep up.
As to driving, this is a highly regulated activity so your argument is pretty weak.
My goal is that we produce well trained citizens who can responsibly manage arms.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
7214 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:32 pm to
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My whole discussion was in the context of permitting concealed carry.


Restrictions on carry are simply barriers to entry for law abiding citizens. There are far more people filming TikTok videos while driving than there are people open carrying in the paint aisle at Lowes (you can't see me concealed carry, obv). Payments and training hour requirements for concealed carry permits are designed to keep poor people, hence minorities and old people on fixed incomes, from being able to carry legally.

Here's the rule: don't shoot anybody that doesn't need shooting. If you're stealing a Tickle-Me-Elmo, I can't shoot you. You're trying to grab someone's kid, I can shoot you. If I'm in fear of my safety, I can shoot you.
Training complete.

Every thing we do is a regulated activity, thanks for that. What you need to put into perspective is that "May issue," where a Sheriff or other LEO was required to approve your access to a permit was *expressly* to keep blacks from carrying. Think of a Sheriff in Lincoln Parish in the 1960s. Why, exactly, does an old black lady in the 9th ward need to pass an accuracy test to blast someone that is trying to steal her social security check when she leaves the bank from three feet away? What about the lady with a crazy ex that doesn't want to get hit again, needs 8 hours of "training," in order to carry a gun.

Define responsible. Define "well trained." I'll wait, and then I'll watch "common sense" politicians expand what you think is OK to prevent all kinds of ownership/carry. This has been going on for decades. Do you need to be an Eagle Scout? What if you got a DUI ten years ago?

Those are rhetorical questions, of course, because the word "reasonable" is the solace of cowards in the terms of rights.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
11638 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:34 pm to
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My goal is that we produce well trained citizens who can responsibly manage arms.


So you will not have a problem when schools begin to teach students how to responsibly manage arms. I believe that is a fantastic idea.

Citizens learn responsible behavior without having to register something with the goooooooooooooooooooooberment.
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