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re: When men worked and women took care of the family. Are we better or worse?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:52 pm to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:52 pm to Mike da Tigah
Materialism and credit happened. We could easily go back, but you wouldn't have those two nice, new vehicles, wouldn't have a 3000 sf house. Your kids wouldn't be in travel ball 5 nights/week, you wouldn't vaca on 30 A, you wouldn't have a $30k boat or a $20k SxS, nor a deer/duck lease and would you rarely eat out.
In the 70s/80s, no one had that. You might have one piece of crap car for the family and a 1500 sf ranch for 5 or 6 people. No cell phones, internet, cable, etc. No eating out, one trip to the grocery a week, if you ran out of what wanted to eat, tough. If a teenager wanted a car, he/she worked to buy it.
ETA, you wouldn't have a million in your 401k by age 60 either, you'd have a lower standard of living and more spartan retirement.
In the 70s/80s, no one had that. You might have one piece of crap car for the family and a 1500 sf ranch for 5 or 6 people. No cell phones, internet, cable, etc. No eating out, one trip to the grocery a week, if you ran out of what wanted to eat, tough. If a teenager wanted a car, he/she worked to buy it.
ETA, you wouldn't have a million in your 401k by age 60 either, you'd have a lower standard of living and more spartan retirement.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 6:15 am
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:05 pm to greenbean
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In the 70s/80s, no one had that. You might have one piece of crap car for the family and a 1500 sf ranch for 5 or 6 people. No cell phones, internet, cable, etc. No eating out, one trip to the grocery a week, if you ran out of what wanted to eat, tough. If a teenage wanted a car, he/she worked to buy it.
This is the truth along with the other latch key kids that we were in the 70s and 80s.
Problem is retirement.
Pension plans were available a lot more in corporations.
Retirement is a lot harder in today’s world when the wife stays at home unless your household spends money like it’s the 50s, 60s and 70s.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:34 pm to greenbean
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Materialism and credit happened. We could easily go back, but you wouldn't have those two nice, new vehicles, wouldn't have a 3000 sf house. Your kids wouldn't be in travel ball 5 nights/week, you wouldn't vaca on 30 A, you wouldn't have a $30k boat or a $20k SxS, nor a deer/duck lease and would you rarely eat out.
In the 70s/80s, no one had that. You might have one piece of crap car for the family and a 1500 sf ranch for 5 or 6 people. No cell phones, internet, cable, etc. No eating out, one trip to the grocery a week, if you ran out of what wanted to eat, tough. If a teenage wanted a car, he/she worked to buy it.
You’re right, but I don’t think any of that has really made people truly happy. We think it will, and it does occupy our time and money, but I don’t think it fulfills anyone.
It’s the trap most of us fall for, only to age and come to the realization that it’s just stuff.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:50 am to greenbean
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Materialism and credit happened.
Materialism has existed for a long but easy credit with terms that would make Tony Soprano blush with the state acting as muscle has destroyed the middle class.
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