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re: How didn’t LSU win the NCAA Championship in 89/90?
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:37 pm to Scoob
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:37 pm to Scoob
Mo was a very good 3pt shooter, 38%, who could get red hot yet he only took 97 that year compared to CJs 246. He also did a poor job using Roberts and the stable of forwards we had on the roster. Brown did a terrible job with that group.
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 5:04 pm to Madking
All 3 forwards, or the 2 centers on the court over 50% of the time?
Wayne Sims
Vernel Singleton
Harold Boudreaux
Singleton is the best of the 3, Wayne very nice guy but he is a Jr and still looking for a spot in the starting 5. Harold Boudreaux was the other brother everyone wanted Carol. Harold was a great high school player, his brother was a little better. Saw all 3 play in high school.
When we had Roberts and O'Neal on the court at the same time, the team seemed slower.
I watched the game at Miss. ST. that year and took a number of photographs.
This is the game Kent blow it with me, not understanding the reason we had the all-time assist list, block list and steal list in the media guide was because I spent hours at LSU doing research on Pete and put the list together and had Jimmy put it in the media guide. I had everyone on the teams' autographs but Shaq and ask if he could sign it, Lowe said no.
Wayne Sims
Vernel Singleton
Harold Boudreaux
Singleton is the best of the 3, Wayne very nice guy but he is a Jr and still looking for a spot in the starting 5. Harold Boudreaux was the other brother everyone wanted Carol. Harold was a great high school player, his brother was a little better. Saw all 3 play in high school.
When we had Roberts and O'Neal on the court at the same time, the team seemed slower.
I watched the game at Miss. ST. that year and took a number of photographs.
This is the game Kent blow it with me, not understanding the reason we had the all-time assist list, block list and steal list in the media guide was because I spent hours at LSU doing research on Pete and put the list together and had Jimmy put it in the media guide. I had everyone on the teams' autographs but Shaq and ask if he could sign it, Lowe said no.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 11:19 pm to Madking
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You had 1 guy who could get super-hot, Chris Jackson. You had another guy who could go off, Mo Williamson, but he also played out of control (I remember a game where he had 12 assists, AND 12 turnovers).
It was extremely frontcourt-loaded, which unfortunately made things somewhat predictable. Stanley and Shaq were monsters, but had trouble with FTs. And only Stanley of the 2 was somewhat polished on the offensive end, at that point. Sims was a big body banger with a soft 12-15 ft shot, not an integral part of the game. Singleton was a slasher and had huge hops, but very limited range. So on and so forth...
You score the LSU-GT game with only 2 pt shots, we win. But long jumpers (3's) made the difference; Kenny Anderson equaled CJ, and Oliver could matchup with Singleton because he was strong at 6-4, with way more range. But we had nothing for Scott at all, a 6-7 guy shooting from beyond the arc.
We'd score 2 pretty consistently, with some missed free throws. They'd hit spurts of 3's, and draw fouls from guys trying to guard their scorers. Look up the box score, CJ and Vernel fouled out, Shaq, Mo and Stanley all had 4 fouls.
You put that LSU lineup before 1986 (first full year of the 3 pt shot in NCAA play), we probably win the title. This was 3 years after that; some teams were beginning to adapt to the new style. LSU hadn't.
Side note, Clemson also had a similar team with Elden Campbell and Dale Davis (Duo of Doom). They got one rd deeper, but again, elite centers were becoming a thing of the past.
I think we'd have whipped their arse, had we played. We had the slightly bigger towers, and a better backcourt.
quote:I'm not going to bash that squad, simply repeat what I said earlier- it's a magnificent roster, for the concept that every shot counts the same (aka before the 3 pt shot). It's not truly elite when you move into the 3 pt era.
Mo was a very good 3pt shooter, 38%, who could get red hot yet he only took 97 that year compared to CJs 246. He also did a poor job using Roberts and the stable of forwards we had on the roster. Brown did a terrible job with that group.
You had 1 guy who could get super-hot, Chris Jackson. You had another guy who could go off, Mo Williamson, but he also played out of control (I remember a game where he had 12 assists, AND 12 turnovers).
It was extremely frontcourt-loaded, which unfortunately made things somewhat predictable. Stanley and Shaq were monsters, but had trouble with FTs. And only Stanley of the 2 was somewhat polished on the offensive end, at that point. Sims was a big body banger with a soft 12-15 ft shot, not an integral part of the game. Singleton was a slasher and had huge hops, but very limited range. So on and so forth...
You score the LSU-GT game with only 2 pt shots, we win. But long jumpers (3's) made the difference; Kenny Anderson equaled CJ, and Oliver could matchup with Singleton because he was strong at 6-4, with way more range. But we had nothing for Scott at all, a 6-7 guy shooting from beyond the arc.
We'd score 2 pretty consistently, with some missed free throws. They'd hit spurts of 3's, and draw fouls from guys trying to guard their scorers. Look up the box score, CJ and Vernel fouled out, Shaq, Mo and Stanley all had 4 fouls.
You put that LSU lineup before 1986 (first full year of the 3 pt shot in NCAA play), we probably win the title. This was 3 years after that; some teams were beginning to adapt to the new style. LSU hadn't.
Side note, Clemson also had a similar team with Elden Campbell and Dale Davis (Duo of Doom). They got one rd deeper, but again, elite centers were becoming a thing of the past.
I think we'd have whipped their arse, had we played. We had the slightly bigger towers, and a better backcourt.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 4:54 pm to Madking
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Brown did a terrible job with that group
That group made it to the elite eight where they loss by 3 to a very talented Georgia Tech team, who shot almost 75% from the line while LSU was shooting 55% from the line.
Disappointing end to an exciting season? Yes. Terrible coaching job no. imo
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